offend republicans. it will offend a lot of democrats. wilfire them up to wanted to come out and support obama more? that s the kind of question we re asking now. yeah. not that hammer the point at all, any neutral reading of say, the u.n. convention against torture makes it pretty clear that if you support waterboarding and you enact that sort of a policy, you re guilty of a war crime. so that s have you got people like john mccain and various other folks who are hardly what you would cause wooses or the war issue. john mccain, a former p.o.w. who himself was tortured, and there are just so many arguments against it, and so few actually showing that it works if you will. but it has really been useful that the public would rather not have our country associated with it. jamie beggangel asking how president bush my react to the book. listen to this. do you think president bush
offend republicans. it will offend a lot of democrats. will it fire them up to want to come out and support obama more? that s the kind of question we re asking now. yeah. not that hammer the point at all, any neutral reading of say, the u.n. convention against torture makes it pretty clear that if you support waterboarding and you enact that sort of a policy, you re guilty of a war crime. so that s you have got people like john mccain and various other folks who are hardly what you would cause wooses on the war issue. john mccain, a former p.o.w. who himself was tortured, and there are just so many arguments against it, and so few actually showing that it works, if you will. but it has really been useful that the public would rather not have our country associated with it. jamie gangel asking how president bush my react to the book. listen to this. do you think president bush
polish his image and avoid indictment, i guess, but being firm, he s been firm all along on this, and i think going into the presidential campaign, the obama administration can help him. happy that he s reviving the aspects of the bush years most folks would like to put behind them. speaking of that, nbc news jamie gangel had an exclusive interview with vice president cheney. here she asks him about torture. let s have a listen. in your view, westill be zyuzin enhanced interrogation? no regrets? no regrets. should we still be waterboarding terror suspects? i would strongly support using it again is if circumstances arose where we had a high-value detainee and that was the only way we could get him to talk. even though so many people d condemned it, people call it torture, you think it should
still be a tool? yes. he never backs off that. we don t expect him to. people know my feelings about this pretty surely, he s a war criminal. torture is a crime, and this is a guy who can t travel to europe anymore for fear of ending up in the hague. does he deal with that, do you suppose, in the book? well, i can t say how he deals with it in the book in detail. just from reports that have come out. i think in real life he probably is avoiding trips to europe, i imagine, like henry kissinger and others on the lam from that branch of international justice, if you will. as far as back here in the states, he probably hasn t got much to fear. the obama administration made it clear they want to move on. they don t want to go back to the justice department and ge after the bush administration on legal areas like this. but with a campaign coming along, again, you ve got to polarize the electorate. nothing he set apparently would
warfare or the intelligence system, whether that was asking the questions and pushing for what led to the surveillance program, which he takes credit for here or what he calls the enhanced interrogation program which led to the huge dispute over torture when they came to light. i m quoting, in discussing the must disputed 16 words about iraq s supposed hunt for uranium in niger, mr. cheney said unlike other aides he sat knoll. ms. rice eventually came around to his view, she came into my office and tearfully admitted i had been right. condoleezza rice isn t going to be happy reading that. is she? i think she has her own memoir scheduled for the pipeline. we ll see whether she can have her memory.