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December 1, 2021
Factual development in states. the workability of the undue standard alone. all the metrics casey was describing casey fails. i would emphasize this as well. casey was not a great example of simply letting precedent stand. it recast and overruled two of the courts most important abortion decisions. it adopted a new standard unknown to other parts of the law. those arent the hallmarks of precedent and failed under this court. >> your answer is yes, you accept the way the special rule, the rule fo...
December 1, 2021
Blackman said the viability line was dicta and had some insight on the question. >> i would add justice blackman pointed out the arbitrary nature of it. >> casey said it was the central principle in roe, viability after tossing out the trimester formula which many people thought was the core principle. but was viability an issue in casey? >> i dont think it was squarely at issue, your honor. it is a little hard not to take the court at its word when it emphasized that the viability is the centra...
December 1, 2021
The court. that is exactly what the constitution was designed to resist. >> bill: jonathan, andy and carey stand by. we can hear the audio from inside the supreme court. the marshall joined the court in the month of june. we believe now in session. the court will begin. soon you will hear the chief justice and also scott stewart, the first lawyer to make arguments. lets drop in. >> yet the courts below struck the law down. it didnt matter that the law applies when an unborn child is undough neua...
December 1, 2021
Light both roe and casey emphasize the burdens of parenting insofar as you and many of your -- focus on the ways in which forced parenting and forced motherhood with hinder womens access to the workplace and the consequences of parenting and the obligations of motherhood that flow from pregnancy. why dont the safe haven laws take care of that problem. it focuses the burden narrowly. there is without question an infringement on bodily autonomy which we have in other contexts that vaccines. howeve...
December 1, 2021
Human lives. if nothing had changed they would be just as bad as they were 30 years ago, 50 years ago and now we just have decades of damage and we have a situation where nearly 30 years after casey the court unfortunately divides over what casey, the lead case on the abortion area he have even means. the lower courts are left not knowing what to do and a fundamental problem as justice gorsuch emphasized in his opinion the problem for lower court is judges there is no neutral rule of law. judges...
December 1, 2021
That is one of the very strong reasons to go all the way and overrule roe and casey, your honor. >> justice gorsuch. >> i want to be clear about what you are arguing and not arguing and to be clear you are not arguing that the court somehow has the authority to itself prohibit abortion or that this court has the authority to order the states to prohibit abortion. so i understand it, correct? >> correct. >> you are arguing the constitution is silent and neutral on abortion. constitution is neithe...
December 1, 2021
Lawrence. but in thinking about that which is the core of this case, how should we be thinking about it? justice breyer pointed out that in casey and in some respects it was a different conception of that concept insofar as it explicitly took into account public reaction. is that a factor that you accept or are you arguing that we should minimize that factor and is there a different set of rules that is true that casey identified brown and west coast hotel as watershed decisions? but is there a ...
December 1, 2021
They have all like marberry versus madison been discerned from the structure of the constitution. why do we now say that somehow roe and casey are so unusual that they must be overturned? >> justice sotomayor, i would emphasize two things. when you are going beyond the constitution, this court has looked closely to -- >> they didnt go beyond the constitution is what im saying. >> they did not deduce those from the structure of the constitution. they pointed to the 14th amendment and reasoned tha...
December 1, 2021
That not much has changed since roe and casey. that people think it is right or wrong based on the things that they have always thought it was right and wrong for. so the rationale behind those cases has something to do with the autonomy and the freedom and the dignity of women to pursue their lives as they wish, to protect their bodily integrity, to make the decisions that are most fundamental to the course of their lives, and always in those cases there was an understanding that there were imp...
December 1, 2021
Made the right balance and some people thought they made the wrong balance but in the end were in the same exact place as we were then except that were not because there has been 50 years of water under the bridge, 50 years of decisions saying this is part of our law, that this is part of the fabric of womens existence in this country, and that that places us in an entirely different situation than if you had come in 50 years ago and made the same arguments. so i guess i just wanted to hear you ...