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Thing that congress is out of town for the holidays. we will see what happens when they come back but interesting the white house changed its tone and there was not a sharp word a about joe manchin said here today, certainly not by the president. but boy, an uphill path. >> jeff zeleny thank you very much. perspective now from democratic strategist james carville. james, great to see you. build back better, dead or alive? what do you think? >> build back better is dead but build back different...

Sachs, moodys, they are already saying if there is no big agenda like this, the build back better agenda, its going to have devastating impacts for the economy. they are adjusting forecasts down. so that could be the incentive that gets people back to the table next year. for now, i think probably a good thing that congress is out of town for the holidays. we will see what happens when they come back but interesting the white house changed its tone and there was not a sharp word about joe manchi...

Of office in 2020. >> i was going to ask you, if your contention is that money talks, and if thats not going to send a message with these economic boycotts in your view, how does political pressure actually bring about change? is the goal then to start all over, wipe out as many of these lawmakers as you can and try to start fresh? it seems like thats an uphill path. >> broth of these are uphill battles. you have to think about which is most likely to succeed. the bill that passed in georgia won...

Elections in june, though lets not forget this is a politician who has very little experience. elizabeth: how does he separate himself? that is his political experience. experiences associated with the president is widely unpopular. >> thats right. i think its a huge uphill path for macron. hes also a man of little real strength and resolve. he seen as very lightweight figure whose a sort of compromise candidate for the french people. he has no real provision for france. in many ways to see a co...