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Argument that one is for less government and less government spending and not be in favor of prison reform and other means of reducing what has become a significant problem. >> peter? >> i think that, you know, the interesting thing about this issue is no matter how you look at it, when you look at the facts, regardless of your ideology, regardless of your desired outcome, the conclusion is pretty clear. we are spending too much money and locking up too many people. the federal prison system is ...