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Procurement system. its even worse than the department of defense. it takes forever to build things. many of these cases by the times something hits the field not only does it not work right the first time but it is about 15 years past when they started defining it and its no longer even the state of the art. the question is you mentioned 60 some countries have something like this. this move to a nonprofit has been tried by other countries. what is the experience in canada. >> its one of the bes...

Procurement system, some members of congress, some democrats said its even worse than the department of defense. many of these cases by the time something hits the field, not only does it not work right the first time, but its about 15 years past when they started defining it and its no longer even state of the art. paul: okay, the question is you mentioned 60-something odd countries have something like this. >> right. paul: move to nonprofit has been tried by other countries, whats the experien...