Van Gurly News Today

Were joined now by van gurly and peter goelz and fran townsend. van, you spent 26 years in the navy. so describe a little bit of the challenge that awaits those. >> the southern oceans are distant. its an isolated place and very hard to get to. the discussion is already -- >> for both planes and boats? >> for everybody. if you wanted to find the end of the earth, this is probably where you would start. >> really? >> so one is a very remote area. its hard to get assets in there. and then once you...