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Courtroom and into a sheriffs van. the question is whether the authorities make that visible? what do you think? i mean, obviously theres a lot -- theres a lot of attention on this case, and the prosecutors certainly want to send a message. >> from a security perspective, they typically want to have the prisoner go into the sheriffs van underground and come out in the car. >> okay. thanks, dennis. appreciate it. >> reporter: were going to step aside with dennis mcandrews. >> ron, hold on one sec...