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It seems as if third place is where somebody like a bush or a rubio really wants to be tonight. >> look. i think there are a lot of subplots. trump-carson is the big one but this is ben carson on a topic hes not talked much about, doesnt have a lot of meat on the bone with the economy. with our friends at cnbc, these arent going to be what will you do about the economy questions. these are going to be, okay, governor kasich, xyz on the economy. i think its a different type of test. i know theres...

Trump versus carson. i give it 3-1 trump. it is the economic debate and trump has the experience and ben has been flip-flopping a little bit. undercard, bush versus rubio, 3-2 rubio. this should be interesting. we talked about the back and forth. >> who gets out? >> who leaves? >> yes. anybody? >> there are a couple of people on the bubble. >> who? >> i think christie -- >> christie is not getting out, he has money. >> mike huckabee? >> i think hes got some money. >> i think hes got organization...

Lets not forget, the only thing that hes pleading guilty to is to lying to the fbi about this hush-hush money and breaking banking laws. john and kate? >> rosa flores for us in chicago, thank you so much. a lot of people thinking unlikely that hell actually serve any prison time here, but nevertheless having to plead guilty, a major development. irm current politics. the big story line in tonights republican debate will no doubt be trump versus carson. >> but what about the rest of the pack? t...

Debate is not, i dont think, your money your vote or whatever that they are headlining it. its trump versus carson. trumps got to come out and really start taking some shots at carson. i want to know exactly how the shots come. can you say hes sleepy, you can say that really he doesnt know what hes talking about. lets see what he says. lets see how carson responds. carson said clearly he doesnt want to get in the pit, the mud. what does ben do? i dont think ben is just going to stand there and l...