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>> well, thats sort of what im saying. >> he would basically -- they would be able to do that. >> see, my sense, and id be interested to know what max thinks, my sense is the base is more with donald trump than it is with fox news. and fox news has hitched their wagon to donald trump. but like i said, when he was running originally, he was not the fox news candidate. >> yes. >> and thats why he attacked them relentlessly. eventually people who used to be on fox are no longer there. >> right. >> ...

On fox are no longer there. >> right. >> or if theyre still working there, you hardly ever see them. the whole entire network became the trump network because of donald trump. so why does he now feel like theyre in charge of him? i really cant follow the reasoning. >> max, do you agree with that? >> this would be a fascinating experiment. what it points to is the power that rupert murdoch potentially has, because we dont know what would happen. what if fox news actually turned on donald trump? t...

The buzzfeed story, lets assume it is true, you still have to lay out the evidence. we might be there in six months, but were not there right now. >> and who leads that effort given the shutdown, hard to imagine mitch mcconnell, mitt romney now a senator, ben sasse, a few others, but very few. tim, great to have you here. and speaking of that record long shutdown, it is now king kong versus godzilla, that is how one adviser describes the shutdown battle. the president denying nancy pelosi a mi...

Is anybody feeling good about any of this, about all of this? well, as i said last night maybe this guy is. there he is -- putin. so lets go through it all point by point. first, theres a story everybodys talking about tonight -- president trump versus nancy pelosi in this corner, right, and then in this corner. trump advisers said it best, this is king kong versus godzilla. the president denying the speaker a plane on her military trip to afghanistan and suggesting she fly commercial to a war z...

Changed. the point is, i represent the president, not the campaign, but from both perspectives, there is no involvement with collusion on the e-mail hack, the only possible crime. the supreme court meets mind closed doors today to discuss a mystery indicate related to the special counsels russia probe, it involves an unnamed foreign government owned corporation that is fighting a subpoena request from a washington, d.c. based grand jury. lower courts have already ruled the company must turnove...

So well see what comes out of this. we expect the north korea negotiator to also meet with the president today. dont know what kind of pictures we will get from that. he is also supposed to deliver another letter to the president from kim jong-un. remember last time he was here he delivered that huge letter that there were pictures of that president trump got. he also recently had a letter delivered to kim jong-un. the dialogue is there. and at the very least that is a good sign. >> well watch f...

False. he has often maintained there was no collusion by the campaign. then yesterday he told dana bash he never meant to send any new signals about what the mueller investigation might be finding and he followed that up with this tweet. my statements on collusion havent changed. the misinterpretation has changed. the point is, i represent the president, not the campaign, but from both perspectives, there is no involvement in collusion with russians on the e-mail hack, the only possible crime. ...

The election and anything else that turned up. if this is part of what turned up and obviouly it would ramp it up to a serious level, i think waiting another three, six, nine, 12 months to me if i were a member of congress that would make me upset. i actually agree with the democrat who said that. a lot of republicans would agree. they would say, yeah, if youve got something rock solid, something like this you can bring forward today. go ahead and get it up on the hill. thats a reasonable positi...