Victory Versus News Today

Four -- [laughter] leland: maybe i should leave. all right, go ahead. gillian: so, you know, no ones seen this report yet, but theres already this narrative emerging here in d.c. victory versus defeat for president trump. how do you read the tea leaves? >> well, i think there is a limited victory, and i think we can surmise something on that, but i think, you know, weve been rushing to judgment for the 20 months that mueller has been investigating the president, and we have to just wait until we...