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Soldiers out of the line. this is an opportunity for the ukrainians to identify those gaps and mount the force -- concentrate the force so they can go in and go across those russian lines. >> the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, says putin, in his words, is obviously very afraid. those are zelenskyys words. how do you think the ukrainian president views putins grasp on power tonight? >> youre right to make the contrast, wolf. we remember -- you remember, you saw, you reported how zelens...

Free-floating electron. hes all over the place. what youre talking about with prigozhin and schoygu, neither are professional military men. they have not grown up in the military. theyre play acting in this. they have not subjugated their forces to the security of russia. they have forces that are pledged to them. its phenomenal. i was thinking as i was watching the film, some of which youre showing right now, the soldiers that are walking around as part of the wagner group under prigozhins comm...

Joining us to discuss all of these unprecedented developments is gary kasparof, the russian pro democracy activist and chess champion. gary, thank you so much for joining us. the kremlin, as you know, now says prigozhin has a guarantee from putin that he can leave the country for belarus in this deal to stopgap wagners ad -- stop wagners advance to moscow. would you trust a guarantee from putin? >> not for a second. and i agree with ambassador taylor who said a few minutes ago ton this program w...

What weve seen throughout the day. helicopters shot out of the sky, it seems. wagner very freely advancing almost halfway to moscow if not further on judging by statements from local officials. unimpeded, frankly, as they move, looking like they were possibly going to arrive in the capital and pose a genuine military threat to a russian heartland now stripped bare of its normal defensive forces who are currently fighting inside ukraine. a very confusing 24 hours. it certainly leaves us aware tha...

Congressman jason crow of colorado. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. first, have you had a chance to get a briefing on these truly historic and stunning events of the past 24 hours? >> i havent received an official briefing yet. i actually just arrived back in colorado from my time in washington. i have been tracking the wagner group and the work of prigozhin for a very long time. hes been involved in africa, in the middle east, and of course the war in ukraine for some time, been ...

Down. again, putins badly wounded. i dont think hell last long because he definitely has no control of russian security forces and army. if prigozhin hadnt decided to turn away from moscow, probably he would be now in control of russian cabinet. >> interesting. gary kasparof, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for inviting me. just ahead, well have much more on the breaking news coming out of russia right now. well talk to a key u.s. lawmaker on the intelligence and foreign affairs...

And putin called for prigozhin to be arrested and russian troops to stop him. and very few if any wanted to fight with prigozhin. i think its a very trouble be sign that most of the elite russian troops joined prigozhin in his march to moscow. >> so what does this mean for yevgeny prigozhin, gary? is his life now at risk? is putin and his forces, are they still going to try to kill him? >> probably. look, were talking about mafia, and prigozhin is a career criminal and now is a war criminal. and...

Media closely. is this a reality check for russians mostly insulated from fallout of putins war in ukraine? >> yet another reality check of this coming home. obviously we have seen in the course of this war there have been, has been a mobilization last year. there is speculation perhaps following this counteroffensive from ukraine we could see another mobilization in the fall. this is something that vladimir putin had been reluctant to do but its clear from any of the attacks weve seen within ru...

Battlefield and putins going to go back to situation normal, its not going to happen. putin has been extremely weakened by this. prigozhin has been extremely weakened by this. the russian military has taken a huge morale blow due to this issue. and actually one of there are greatest tools, one of the greatest assets to this wagner military force of over 30,000 is just off the battlefield. this is an opportunity for ukraine to actually capitalize on this and expedite the offensive. >> do you expe...

Hell live long because putin cant afford having to -- put in such an awkward situation. its, again, humiliation all over the face. dictator cant afford to look weak. and putin lost control. and he even talked about recognizing that his mafia state was on the verge of collapse. >> yeah. good point. how seriously do you think, gary, this unprecedented chaos right now undermines putins grip on power? >> again, he lost prestige. dictator relies on his ability, and hes always the last decisionmaker. ...