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Linda, was under three weeks ago on september 30th. now, powells long time chief of staff told our colleague that powell had been vaccinated with the pfizer vaccine. got his second dose in early february and was due to get his booster shot this past week, but fell ill and could not receive it. >> my heart goes out to that family. thank you very much. i want to bring in our chief medical correspondent, dr. gupta, the author of a new book, world war c. lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to...

Have approved booster shots for the immunocompromised. powell had kept his cancer quiet. one of his last public appearances was in september at the city college of new york. speaking with his daughter, linda, he grew emotional talking about the students. >> can each of you tell me where youre from, where your parents are from and whats your future. each one of them, 12, i think, each one of them -- and. >> yeah. they reminded you of ourself. >> the reason im crying is i looked at them and they w...

Family. bob woodward is joining us right now. hes co-author of the new book. bob, its amazing stuff you always do, but this was your last interview with general powell. one of 50, as jamie reports, that you conducted over the last three decades. what struck you as he reflected on his own career and on his thought about the state of our country? >> first of all, he was so independent minded. indeed a soldier. but at the first gulf war in 1991 when he was chairman of the joint chiefs, he was pushi...

Up the phone among those in his inner circle and share about the cancer that he was battling, as well as parkinsons. im told the reason why is because he was concerned he was not going to be able to communicate effectively to his inner circle and people in that circle had not heard from him since today. and so it was in that sense, a shock and a very disturbing one. but i did have an opportunity in october of 2018 three years ago, with secretary madeleine alb albright and powell at creighton uni...

Would not ordinarily be covered by any executive privilege claim. further, even if that werent the case, we want to talk to him about conversations he had. the plot that he may have held with other people, with organizers in the political arena. with political figures. both in the congress and in state legislatures. that has nothing to do with his communications with the former president. and you cant just say well im not coming in. the law requires when a subpoena has been dually issued, as thi...

Future run for president? >> i dont know how much of it ties into a future run for president. i think they want to try to muddy this investigation to the extent that the trump folks expect that january 6th is going to factor into democrats calculations for 22 and beyond. that is a piece of it. but look, i think you cant unde underestimate this. he has a ton of money sitting in his political committees. this is costing him personally nothing. he doesnt mind going ahead with this and he likes to d...

You and bob reported, he also listened to his life. >> such an amazing man. bob, give us some thoughts. what goes through your mind as you know, this morning around 8:00 p.m., we always heard the sad news. i had no idea he was as sick as he was. but it just vjolted me and im sure it did you as well. s >> three months ago when we talked, as we know from the aut audio tape of this, he was optimistic. dont feel sorry for me. dont worry about me. ive had a good life. but when you listen to it carefu...

And he rose to the highest ranks not only in the military, but also areas of foreign policy and state craft. >> from powells heritage to his storied military career before becoming a public servant, he paved the way for so many. like secretary of defense. >> the world lost one of the greatest leaders that we have ever witnessed. alma lost a great husband and the family lost a tremendous father. i lost a tremendous personal friend and mentor. >> reflecting on his career, powell told wolf blitzer ...

Who had been massacred. you had this trump ally who was going after, planting pipe bombs and also these immigrants coming from central america being called invaders, an infestation, from our former president. he was not shy in any way. very outspoken about the pride that he had that his parents came from jamaica and they were the product, one, a teacher, one, a soldier. >> thats why he wanted to give back to his country. he was so proud of being the son of immigrants. ha having given his family ...

The reluctant voier theme, but it even goes further. he doesnt want to seem more glorified because in war, people die and he, that theme does not go away in the conversation then or the conversations going back to the gulf war in 1991. of all things. when he was on the newsweek cover. the reluctant warrior. the execerpts of my book. commanders, thats may of 1991. he always would say, am i the reluctant warrior? guilty. guilty. because war has all of that uglyness that we as human beings and as s...