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>> wait a minute. how will you feel? >> i havent -- im not going to speculate on things that havent happened yet. i havent seen -- >> if he says -- >> ive seen selective leaks -- >> its not a leak when the guy puts out a sworn statement. sondland isnt a leak. these arent anonymous. they arent leaks, fred. you know. these are real people saying real things. >> there was a statement by this fellow, but we dont know what happened in closed-door testimony. we hear from the republicans that this guy ...

Republicans are in there, they are then going to have hearings and at that point all the arguments apply. transparent, due process -- >> the democrats dont plan on giving any of those -- >> they absolutely do. they said theyre going to have open hearings. >> they said theyre going to have open maergz. theyre not going to give the rights to the minority. theyre not going to gift rights to the president. first of all, the presidents counsel should be asking questions right now in schiffs hearing. ...