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Lolo pilots to switch from one to the other, that could be a very material statement. either it is true or it is not and that might be part of the investigation. and so for pilots to go from a standard 737 to this one without the second part of this problem, without the warning equipment in the cockpit and without knowing about the mcas was clearly -- i dont think the plane should have been certified without additional training and remember the training and pilots manuals also have to be approve...