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Reenforcement for exactly every color of cynicism and suck we have about covid. people who are anti-vax are hesitant or against mandates or getting fueled into this thing of big brother, theyre going to support him. even though it may be the case hes done everything wrong. on the other side, people are going to want to see him canceled. i dont think thats right, either. i want to hear him own it. thats what we need. thats what everybody needs -- the fans, society, someone to just own the truth. ...

On the other side, people are going to want to see him canceled. i dont think thats right, either. i want to hear him own it. thats what we need. thats what everybody needs -- the fans, society, someone to just own the truth. >> well, no matter how anti-facts, anti-science, anti-common sense some of the anti-vaxxers are, people like carson wentz and cole beasley and kirk cousins in the nfl are more celebrated, certainly the more focus case of kyrie irving in the nba, say whatever you want theyve...

The objective, namely, feeding fears, not with facts. facts be damned. no proof of truth necessary. case in point. a conspiracy theory that has been played mostly for laughs. bizarre claim. made on national tv. two american companies were working with a dead venezuelan dictator. listen. >> we had a report that the heads of dominion and smartmatic, somewhere in the mid teens, 13, 14, whatever, went down to venezuela for a get to know meeting with maduro so they could demonstrate to maduro the kin...

Against the virus of lies and hate that youre talking about. >> im with you. but so much of the truth is about -- or people accepting something as true, its about who is telling them it. thats why i have some hope for this iteration, because its about documents. you cant like or dislike documents. they say what they say. hopefully if you get paper, people will see it as a reasonable basis to make an informed opinion. norm eisen, thank you for being on the show. >> thanks, chris. now, im off to...

Move quicker than some fear. >> am i wrong to be cynical about the impact of the outcome, to see -- i see support for trump as people using him as a proxy for their animus against the entire system. hes never been an anecdote, hes always been a virus, injected into the system because people hate it. will that change? >> chris, i think we -- weve already seen a national dawning as to what trump represents. as these facts come out, they will have impact. that is why this litigation, the civil liab...

Objective. >> there were a number of media outlets. why did you not ask to provide a statement correcting that these misstatements that you had recorded? >> that didnt seem to be the material part of the inquiry. >> material part. the truth wasnt material? now, look, youll say hey, look, in politics, they all lie. thats not true. but you can feel that way. i understand why you would. but just know if you or anyone decides to still put stock in trumps sludge, you now know you are buying a bunch o...

Memo debunking the claims of election fraud. yet, they didnt say a word. under oath, powell forced to admit that getting to the truth was never an objective. >> you had the ear of a number of conservative media outlets. why did you not ask to provide a statement correcting that the misstatement you had a recording? >> that didnt seem to be the material part of the inquiry. >> material part. the truth wasnt material? look, you will say, look, in politics, they all lie. thats not true. you could f...

That is why this litigation, the civil litigation you were talking about earlier on the show, this litigation over the committees subpoenas, theyre getting to the truth. people do pay attention to the truth. that truth inoculates against the virus of lies and hate that you are talking about. >> im with you. so much of the truth is about -- or people accepting its true its about who is telling them it. thats why i have hope for this. because its about documents. you cant like or dislike documents...

>> the answer is, yes, its already starting to uncover the truth. and chris, it will now be up to the d.c. circuit to prove me right or wrong. >> so you go through, you get the documents. you see that president trump was talking to people. there was some kind of knowledge. there was a semblance of suggestion that lets see what happens. he was too quiet for too long. then what? >> well, the thing that happens next is that, um, we see the devastating, um, consequences, um, of the insurrection. and...

Committee says 20 new subpoenas are going out, quote, soon. this as lawyers for the former president appeared in court to try to keep documents about the capitol riot secret. lets discuss with norm eisen. whats the answer? >> the answer is, yes, its already starting to uncover the truth. chris, it now will be up to the d.c. circuit to prove me right or wrong. >> you go through. you get the documents. you see trump was talking to people. there was some kind of knowledge. there was a semblance of ...