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Thing beforeig i let you go. you a said the religion of secularism, all right? so its basically the catholic church and other faith based people, other religions against the american media and entertainment industry. um-huh. >> thats how i see it all right, the american press very secular, would you agree? >> yeah. and the enpertainment industry poundingan secularism all day long. >> yes.nt so you find yourself on the defensive. >> yep. >> scus as you are in the now in the intrusion by the obama...

Thing beforeig i let you go. you a said the religion of secularism, all right? so its basically the catholic church and other faith based people, other religions against the american media and entertainment industry. um-huh. >> thats how i see it all right, the american press very secular, would you agree? >> yeah. and the enpertainment industry poundingan secularism all day long. >> yes.nt so you find yourself on the defensive. >> yep. >> scus as you are in the now in the intrusion by the obama...

>> prior to that bill, there was a remarkable unanimity among catholics saying this is time for the church to stand up. this is an unwarranted, radical, unprecedented intrusion in the life of the church. we cant go there as americans. >> bill: you think there could be a uniting. >> thats been fractured a bit since february 10th. there are some who say okay now, the administration has seen our point. we can back off. we bishops dont think we can. im wondering if this is the issue that will bring ...

>> prior to that bill, there was a remarkable unanimity among catholics saying this is time for the church to stand up. this is an unwarranted, radical, unprecedented intrusion in the life of the church. we cant go there as americans. >> bill: you think there could be a uniting. >> thats been fractured a bit since february 10th. there are some who say okay now, the administration has seen our point. we can back off. we bishops dont think we can. im wondering if this is the issue that will bring ...