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Ben is going to say right now. ben is going to say -- ben is going to say wait a minute. those are talking points. they do sound like talking points. >> its facts. >> don, the border is so secure that weve only let, like, 11 or 12 or 13 or 14 million people in that we couldnt catch. were doing a great job with the border. >> that has happened in the last 30 years. that has happened in the last 30 years, ben, youre right. thats why we have to fix the broken immigration system. >> hang on. both of...