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>> chris, there are 607 people listed in the doctoral program currently at evms. how many could there have been in 84? how credible is a student run newspaper that nobody in the faculty knew was being published? that wasnt supervised? how many copies could there have been at that time? im just saying, the credibility of the or the accuracy of that news source, you want to talk about a fake yearbook, or the accuracy of that news source, the fact that he didnt purchase one. we dont know how many p...

Im not accusing you of hiding or anything like that. if you read this indictment plain text. not looking at it with any level of sophistication, the special counsel is clearly making the case that stone was trying to coordinate with people that he thought had the goods on hillary clinton ill gotten goods from wikileaks or whatever. thats coordination. thats a sign of coordination. that he was directed to find more of those things if he could. that would be coordination. not crimes. except if you...

Intellectual dishonesty of ricks last point. this is where it falters. the fact is donald trump offered for a pathway to citizenship for daca and those with tps after he took it away. its unconstitutional and he was the one that took away their protections. >> thats not the bottom line. >> do not take away their protections and then give it back to us and say that is a deal. thats not a deal. thats not compromise. >> >> heres the reality that well see tomorrow night. hes going to have to pick a ...

He was so horrified in seeing that picture, this is my take on it, that he felt compelled to apologize for whatever actions he may have had as a child, and we know that 25 is not 18. but anybody thats 45 and has a mortgage knows that 25 is not grown. >> i hear you. but you have to own it. you have to own it. thats the problem with an apology. i put the picture on the yearbook. he created mystery around it. >> right. no he did not -- i dont think he said he put the picture on the yearbook. i dont...

But just in case, ill give you a second prediction. when asked about this -- and at some point he will be -- he will likely deny that he knew anything about it, just like in the mueller probe. and it will be just as difficult to believe. hell probably say, well, they lie, these workers. they lie. thats what they do. brown menace. but that wont be what the reporting shows. so when youre listening to him rail against the migrants and not those hiring, remember this and chalk it up to hypocrisy. an...

Going to have a lot to talk about. i think that second choice is way worse than some people in your party think. your party is starting to move toward a more rational understanding of what a national emergency would mean if he calls it. lets see what road he takes tomorrow night. he has to pick. youre always welcome to make your arguments. i dont care how much heat i have for having you on to make the case. >> you do. >> thank you for being here. i appreciate it. another big story and look, you ...

Stories. which is true is up for you guys to figure out. >> over a period of time, you can figure that out. when hes in there for hour after hour after hour and you dont have contrary evidence before you which in this case we dig digit, we didnt know that. i think this is so important because youre saying that theres evidence of collusion here. >> not a crime. collusion is a behavior. its not a crime. im not saying theres criminal conduct. >> whether you define it as behavior or a crime, i dont ...