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Among themselves to the effect of, well if we dont do it, how bad is it? if the coup doesnt happen how bad is it? we kaplan order in place, nobody really knows this is happening in the public view, we can hold things together. you really do get a flavor of that in these emails. to your point, grumbling, passing things along but nobody actually taking any action. no investigations launched. everybody kind of just nodding. >> and the one person who resigns here about whom we still dont know the ba...