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The wider question -- i have proud of him regardless if he runs. i believe leadership has been replaced by marketing. we microtarget, micropander. thats focus group and figure out how to win this. were tired of politicians who think its right, make an argument, and then you figure it out. hes not a typical weather vane dand of guy. i think its what the country is looking for. >> round table will be back. well hear from them later on. coming up next though, ahead of the one-year anniversary of ...

The wider question -- i have proud of him regardless if he runs. i believe leadership has been replaced by marketing. we microtarget, micropander. thats focus group and figure out how to win this. were tired of politicians who think its right, make an argument, and then you figure it out. hes not a typical weather vane dand of guy. i think its what the country is looking for. >> round table will be back. well hear from them later on. coming up next though, ahead of the one-year anniversary of ...

>> i want to hit one more point. a lot of talk about jeb bush and his comments this week about illegal immigrants actually committing a crime that is an act of love. a lot of focus on whether he is -- a, does he really want to do this, and, two, will he be eaten alive by the primary process. whats your read on this? >> its way too early figure out if hes running or not. its a speculation machine in d.c. were two years out of a campaign. hes -- >> its called our lifeblood. >> a machine. the wider...