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Bidens call? its kind of stunning, the aftermath of it. im not shocked at how he did it and the timing of how he did it, like why did he do it yesterday and the format he did it in. i think its just -- i think it was really surprising to me that he would -- he seems kind of angry, in fact, how he did it. im very surprised about that, the mode more than the message itself. >> so biden, of course, has touted his close personal relationship with manchin, and when they got off -- after their meeting...