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Around. people like gary cohn werent idea logical. if you look at the conversation happening now, john bolton being interviewed by the president for h.r. mcmasters job. hes in the grand scheme of conventional orthodox generals who support the post cold war order. john bolton is an ideologue and thats whats going to happen as people are replaced. >> ideologues -- i think ricks point is right in this one respect. you usually get a new administration. cite the clinton example. you bring in with all...

Ruling involving web hubbell, a former law partner of hillary clinton if somebody has to make a decision about which documents are relevant to a subpoena, that could be a form of testimony, and its covered by the fifth amendment. so this is going to be a very interesting legal argument. and i think its pretty clear to say that its not going to end here. whoever loses will likely appeal. this could drag on for quite some time. >> but paul, bridget kelly is the author of the e-mail as i said, "tim...