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Veselnitskaya, and then you have butina. is it possible they didnt know what the other was doing? >> its possible but its not possible the kremlin and putin didnt know. >> hes the spider but there were all sorts of extended webs that not everybody knew what -- who was operating in which web segment. >> yeah, thats right. >> yes. you mentioned sergei corps kov and im glad you reminded everybody about him. hes faded away but remember he was -- he was in charge at the time of russias largest bank. ...

After and stepping into mommys shoes down the road. ella is hysterical. shes already a paid contributor. shes, what, how old? >> shes 5. >> yeah, 5. >> its a little crazy. she does a web segment with me for our show called political playground where she comments on the news of the day. the latest one is on the panda cam being back up and that pandas come from china and theyre there for immigrants to this country and how should we treat immigrants. shes amazing. she came to me and she said, mommy...