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This is what theyve contributed to the debate. theyve had a vast media network to deliver those "ideas." so this notion that they were out in the cold and nobody paid attention to them is so patently ridiculous. but, yeah, when we talk about their role in the current political process, its to say no to everything. i mean, they voted no against supplemental funding for our troops in afghanistan. i mean, this is the kind of thing that they crucified democrats for doing back in the bush years, yet ...