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Like the midwestern town. >> i dont know if i could do the average low temperature -- >> dont they have the sky bridges? >> its a livable city in the winter time. is it a drivable city in the winter time? thats another question. its beautiful. >> people who go up there love it completely. >> and never leave. >> yeah, and they dont leave. thats true. >> stephanie, good to see you. i was making a segue because the fact you travel a lot. i didnt really know we were headed into -- i didnt know we we...