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More and more progress was needed before the next phase of talks on trade and a transition period could begin. well t.w. about your of course upon the matter since been covering those talks he joins us from brussels welcome so reading between the lines of the statements from the two sides what has been your assessment of his fourth round. i would say this fourth round was a little more constructive there was a little bit more clarity but all of that is a far cry from actual agreement so in key a...