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I think they see a relationship with russia as important long-term to push back the include of the u.s. in the west. >> im sorry, as you and i are coming to air, were getting new reporting that three u.s. officials are confirming to nbc news that the u.s. government has reason to believe that russia has asked china for military equipment and other support following the start of its war in ukraine. does that surprise you? >> well, it wouldnt surprise me, because what i think is also going to be h...