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Charges. the doctor passes on some of those additional costs to everybody else and that raises everybody elses rates. >> mike: governor rendell thats a concern many have. it is a cost shift, let me commend you. in pennsylvania you have done something already expanding health care access to many people in pennsylvania and youve done it with the innovation of having co-pays and deductibles. thats the kind of medicaid reform that i personally think is the way it ought to go. this particular bill do...

And deductibles. thats the kind of medicaid reform that i personally think is the way it ought to go. this particular bill doesnt necessarily create that shared partnership. so you have more government money than individual money put in. why cant there be something like youre doing? >> governor youre absolutely right. there could have been more of that so everyone is listening is clear, right now states have to, by law, offer medicaid to people who are earn within00% of the poverty level or less...

Commend you. in pennsylvania you have done something already expanding health care access to many people in pennsylvania and youve done it with the innovation of having co-pays and deductibles. thats the kind of medicaid reform that i personally think is the way it ought to go. this particular bill doesnt necessarily create that shared partnership. so you have more government money than individual money put in. why cant there be something like youre doing? >> governor youre absolutely right. the...

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