department of justice but mueller has no interest in that fight. what he has an interest in is what he start the with today which is today we are losing sight of the important thing, the russians undermined our democracy and the president won't ac knowledge it much less do something about it. >> we're not -- >> and that is a central point that he wants but he was very clear on the second point. which is he was not able to indict the did the most fair thing which was to lay out the obstruction without saying that -- that he was charging him >> what it added up to. >> let me make one simple point. >> he left. >> choose. >> he left it for congress. >> choose your moisten you make mueller look like a saint yet this is the same mueller who said today that general barr is acting in good faith. sir are you really suggesting that if bafr perjured himself as you seem to imply that that's what mueller would do he would give -- because he is an institutionallist he would give barr cover you can't have it both ways. >> sir not having it both ways. i'm explaining why i think.