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That? >> yes. were looking to show leadership. the last time they did reform 30 years ago and created mandatory minimums under the clinton administration, they the state started to do minimums. were seeing states doing the opposite. working on smart on crime, policies. and were continuing to engage with the state leaders and doing things that will make communities safer and fairer for all americans. >> speak of being fair. there is some concern. the director of bureau of prisons told lawmakers l...