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The source and the method of the collection. and that can then lead to this information being cut off for us. >> and evelyn, i have to ask the basic question which is sometimes a necessary question. why do you think the white house has an above average number of problems specifically with national security and especially with russia? >> and russia. honestly, i dont know. but it doesnt look very good. and this is why i think it gets back to the need for an independent investigation. it doesnt hav...

Be trusted to investigate this. there is two issues here there is the fbi investigating it. but the department of justice would be the ones to prosecute any case. the fbi does not bring cases. >> of course. >> they find evidence. and this department of justice has shown so far that they are loyal soldiers to the president and not to the country. >> right. >> he has one choice here. and that is to appoint a special prosecutor or honestly, resign. >> right. and no matter what other chaos headlines...

No, he was just referencing a more secure border. maybe he was. but whats important here is the courts are ultimately going to decide whether to judge these travel bans by how trumps aides wrote them as a strict but arguably neutral set of rules that dont even use the word "muslim." or the judges may decide to evaluate this how the president actually sold it on the campaign trail as a, quote, muslim ban, and to this day something that does not conflict with his statements about muslims. the whit...

Is the fbi investigating it. but the department of justice would be the ones to prosecute any case. the fbi does not bring cases. >> of course. >> they find evidence. and this department of justice has shown so far that they are loyal soldiers to the president and not to the country. >> right. >> he has one choice here. and that is to appoint a special prosecutor or honestly, resign. >> right. and no matter what other chaos headlines there are, that is a meeting thursday that will be a priority ...

The partner. one of the subordinates called for the discussion to be stricken from internal memos, and for the full transcript to be limited to a small circle of recipients, to prevent details from being disseminated further. david, your thought on that. >> well, look, if this is code word protected information, which means a very small set of people have access to it, then you could see a circumstance where you would try to limit the distribution of the memo of the meeting with the russians so ...

Expected by this coming thursday they would be briefing the entire senate? it doesnt seem like that went according to plan. >> it doesnt seem like much went according to plan last week. but i would say this. were in a situation where the president of the united states has fired the chief investigator into him. so really, him selecting any fbi director i think is suspect. i dont think the public is actually really going to trust that fbi director unless there is a special prosecutor. but let me s...

Has an above average number of problems specifically with national security and especially with russia? >> and russia. honestly, i dont know. but it doesnt look very good. and this is why i think it gets back to the need for an independent investigation. it doesnt have to take a long time. i myself was executive director of the wmd commission which was a child of the 9/11 commission. we got our work done within six months. it can be done because you hire people who have security clearance, exper...

Recognize quickly that trump had overstepped and moved to contain the potential fallout. the assistant to the president for counter terror placed calls to the directors of cia and nsa, services most involved in the intel sharing arrangement with the partner. one of the subordinates called for the discussion to be stricken from internal memos, and for the full transcript to be limited to a small circle of recipients, to prevent details from being disseminated further. david, your thought on that....

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And then the president said exactly the opposite. the position taken by the white house press office. and again and again, the white house press office has been misrepresenting facts. its a very, very embarrassing situation. so i really dont listen to anything he has to say anymore. it doesnt have any credibility. >> and neera, you imagine that when this all started, hard to believe, but it was a week ago today when reportedly those top two officials at doj were talking to the president and then...