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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:48:00

what that means in terms of where they are for the other players, i don t know that we necessarily know how far along they are for roger stone, for example, or rudy giuliani, or even donald trump, though i suspect that they will all intersect at some point. what do you think, chuck? i am not trying to leave myself wiggle room with this answer, chris. but i will tell you. you re a lawyer, it s okay. i was a prosecutor, big difference. let me tell you what i know, and what i don t know. with a search warrant, that means that goes to a federal judge and asked her to review and sign a warrant. which a test of the fact that they have probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and that they are going to find evidence of that crime in the place that they are going to search. so mr. clark s house, or mr. eastman s phone. that is not a good thing if you are clark or eastman. it is never a good thing, chris, to have the fbi or somebody

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:30:00

with some experience adjacent to this. no one has experience prosecute an ex president. it never. happened harry litman, thank you for your time tonight. thank you, chris. so, the committee has been meticulously working to show that everyone involved in this coup plot knew what they were trying to do was criminal. or at least feared that. and there is a real question about, as harry said okay, what is the department of justice doing with that information? and there are real, unmistakable signs of life and action from the doj. and that s ahead. and that s ahead only from discover. i had been giving koli kibble. it never looked like real food. with the farmer s dog you can see the pieces of turkey. it smells like actual food. as he s aged, he s still quite energetic and youthful. i really attribute that to diet. get started at longlivedogs.com

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:46:00

so, sort of like me reading the first three pages of the piece, and then writing a book report. not saying i ever did that in college, but we don t yet know a fraction of what the committee has. we know almost nothing over the department of justice has. so i think asha s caution to be mindful of those different paradigms is really important. let s talk about the development on eastman and clark. because that seems, to me, quite significant. anytime someone and sub searched by the feds, whether it is an elected official, back when i was in chicago covering local politics, it happened every other week with, you know, that means that there is something there. it is not starting from square one. what is your judgment, again, from what we know publicly about the significance of the eastman and clark searches? yes chris.

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:45:00

questions. like, what you can uncounted mitt. chuck, what is your feeling about all of this? i think tasha s point about the committee doing a top-down investigation is important, one worth perhaps explaining a bit more. i was a prosecutor for a long time, chris, you were cases from the bottom up. so if you can induce the evidence, and sustaining conviction, you get people to cooperate. you convict, and they cooperate. you convict, and they cooperate. and you move of the period. it seems to be focused on the very top of the pyramid. and so it is a very different orientation. also, i think you have to be extraordinarily careful because let s say the committee has interviewed 1000 people, and let s say that they spent four hours with each one. i wasn t a math major, but 1000 times for his 4000. we have so far heard about ten or 12 hours of testimony. they may have 4000 hours worth of depositions.

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:57:00

republicans, and even bigger advantage than we thought heading into the midterms. yes, so you put it this way i think this is well said, florida, new york, and ohio all have extremely similar anti jim rendering language and shined in state constitutions passed by voters. but only new york is on track to enforce its reforms, and that is the difference powering gop gains in 2022 redistricting. let s talk about the ohio situation which seems particularly sort of wild. i mean, am i right that they just basically ignored the courts order? that the maps have to be tossed? yes chris. in january the states in ohio step down the proposal as contrary to the state constitution. and there was an amendment passed by voters by a considerable a majority that said that maps could not give one party an undue advantage. and the chief justice was a moderate republican. she ruled, not only against the

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