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while i was in the group. we were in touch with a bulletin board service because of that we were becoming informed about what the you have oh community was talking about. in late 1996 . the group began to orient itself towards departure. and in particular they bought into the conspiracy theory in 1997 that the government was hiding the existence of a flying saucer. that was trilling the hell bob comet. most important name to think about here is art bell. art bell was a source of consp...

this song is when you know and oh by the class. while i was in the group. we were in touch with a bulletin board service because of that we were becoming informed about what the ufo community was talking about. in late 1996. the group began to orient itself towards departure, and, in particular they bought into the conspiracy theory in 1997 that the government was hiding the existence of a flying saucer. that was thrilling the hell bob kahn it. most important name to think about here i...

Tell me are there any regrets? yeah the castration thing. i was way off on that one. ted. it turns out, it had nothing to do with anything. and in fact, when we got here, everyone just looked at me like applewhite, you nutball. yeah but hes are not. scared of going public, but i felt like i needed to i knew that they werent getting the most accurate reporting on them. joining us now from seattle is andrew, a member of heavens gate for 18 years from 1975 to 1993. thats an assumed name. by the way...

Castration thing. i was way off on that one. ted. it turns out, it had nothing to do with anything. and in fact, when we got here, everyone just looked at me like applewhite, you nutball, but hes on board. i was scared of going public, but i felt like i needed to i knew that they werent getting the most accurate reporting on them. joining us now from seattle is andrew, a member of heavens gate for 18 years from 1975 to 1993. thats an assumed name. by the way in new york is sawyer also an assumed...