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Who apparently stole billions from like retirement funds. but the new york timesew york tim treated w them like, yeah, you know, maybe he got a little , youot know, you did some bad thingse s or d whatever , but theres no like its not like hes donald trump or something, right?ght? >>s that? like what is that? >> you know, the thing that was striking about this, tucker, is it actually reminded me of a lot of what we saw in the aftermath of the twin financial crisis, where you had firms that again...