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So anytime you get to a small restriction, the flow usually increases. so luckily the flow is down, but, yeah, thats an unbelievably daunting task, especially for what these kids have gone through. >> you know, ed, listen. lets talk about just the duration of this 2 1/2-mile journey for these kids, much of it via scuba. when they get closer to the end of the cave, the last three quarters of a mile theyll be able to walk, because thats deemed to be clear and pretty rain free. but that, you combin...

Be the basic skills of how to clear that mask and how to deal with that. what they cant instill in these kids is experience, and so you never know how -- what can happen. straps can break. masks can flood. gas can, you know, free flow. theres all sorts of things that experience teaches you how to deal with and unfortunately experience takes time and they dont have that. so, yes, panic is the nemesis here. generally -- >> go ahead. >> theyre going to have enough gas -- they should have gas staged...