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Know, half a century ago. no, no. the president of the united states was bloviating. lets be honest about it he didnt know what the heck he was talking about. when the scandal first broke he said the right thing the!çí irs should not be used to intimidate people of any persuasion, republican democrat, liberal or conservative. now he has figured out that these were people working to do in his political enemies then is he all warm and fuzzy about it and blaming it on the stupid congress and avoi...

It but i wanted to get that clarified. >> they call me crazy and they are entitled to that view. >> me too. >> we are the poster boys for it you said going on this program was worse than being in captivity in north vietnam. do you remember saying that to me? >> that was a joke. >> i know it was a joke. >> what i said was i hadnt had so much fun since my last interrogation. >> i dont doubt it we always aappreciate you coming on, thank you. >> thank you bill. >> freedom of information documents sh...

Personal story segment tonight, the irs targeting conservative group story not going away. this week, president obama appeared with jon stewart. >> what happened with the irs? >> well, you got this back office and they are going after the tea party. well, it turned out no, congress has passed a -- a crummy law that didnt give people guidance in terms of what they were trying to do. they did it poorly and stupidly,b but that becomes. [ laughter ] >> you really do have only a year left. thats unbe...

Personal story segment tonight, the irs targeting conservative group story not going away. this week, president obama appeared with jon stewart. >> what happened with the irs? >> well, you got this back office and they are going after the tea party. well, it turned out no, congress has passed a -- a crummy law that didnt give people guidance in terms of what they were trying to do. they did it poorly and stupidly,b but that becomes. [ laughter ] >> you really do have only a year left. thats unbe...

What was irs doing to g.p.s. exactly? >> not only did g.p.s. but also the u.s. chamber of commerce. what they were attempting to do was attempting to look at the individual donors to this 50 1 c 4 g.p.s. and the 501 c 6 the u.s. chamber and then subject those donors to a 35% tax on any gift that they gave to these two organizations. now, the problem was that in 1982 the united states supreme court disallowed this specific procedure that the irs was contemplating applying to the donors of our gro...

Thats a 501 c 3. we are a c 4. you do not get a tax deduction for contribution that you make to crossroads g.p.s. >> no tax deduction for that, correct? >> same thing. their rules. >> why would 35% were giving money to you and the chamber of commerce? >> because they wanted to penalize them and discourage them from contributing to conservative organizations. thats why. now, there san important point here, bill. >> all right. >> who were these people exchanging the emails? they were people in the...

We are a c 4. you do not get a tax deduction for contribution that you make to crossroads g.p.s. >> no tax deduction for that, correct? >> same thing. their rules. >> why would 35% were giving money to you and the chamber of commerce? >> because they wanted to penalize them and discourage them from contributing to conservative organizations. thats why. now, there san important point here, bill. >> all right. >> who were these people exchanging the emails? they were people in the councils office....

It but i wanted to get that clarified. >> they call me crazy and they are entitled to that view. >> me too. >> we are the poster boys for it you said going on this program was worse than being in captivity in north vietnam. do you remember saying that to me? >> that was a joke. >> i know it was a joke. >> what i said was i hadnt had so much fun since my last interrogation. >> i dont doubt it we always aappreciate you coming on, thank you. >> thank you bill. >> freedom of information documents sh...

>> im not sure if you have paid attention to every detail,ç bu there were waivers that were granted to big corporations and unions along the way. when we had on congressman, he had reached out to the çirs to try to figure out where the fire departments are going to stand and he had no concrete answer as of yet. i can tell you that in septembq the congressional fire services institute the volunteer firemens council have sent letters toç the irs asking for someone to clarify the language and...

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