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so, i can talk from the bmj perspective that when you get that kind of — we're very evidence—based at the bmj. we're a medical research journal. and, you know, when doctors are involved, it's a bmj story, so it's natural for us to take an interest in this— and approach it from an evidence—based perspective and i think what we had to do is do what cass did — hilary cass did, which was to remove the political framing and focus on what is the evidence and not to be sort of blindsided by some of the backlash we got from the stories that we ran. and we were very aware of the work that deb and hannah was doing. we previously covered the interim findings of the cass report. hilary cass came to us. she wanted to talk directly to the profession. so, we ran an opinion piece by her. but when we got involved with investigations is — looking at the fact that