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pete: could be. listen, if mike avenatti's sitting in a jail cell and he feels he has information that could benefit the future president of the united states who has been willing to give pardons just like every other president -- kayleigh: yes. pete: -- why not? why wouldn't that be his play? and you know what? his reputation is terrible, but so is michael cohen's. he has no credibility -- will: none. pete: and he's the star witness for the prosecution. so use what you got. if he's got information that helps donald trump, i didn't see it coming, but -- kayleigh: i will say, michael avenatti has a denied that is his motive. however, he went from in 2018 publicly calling for trump to be indicted to now defending him and pretty vociferous terms. and he an a eyeses his legal troubles with trump's, they are knoll nothing aligning. michael avenatti is convicted of multiple crime cans. president trump, this is a sham, unprecedented legal battle being waged against him.