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ALJAZ Hate In Trumps America November 3, 2017

Human error that led to the brief closure of the account twitter says its working on steps to prevent such incidents occurring again well those are the headlines the news continues here on aljazeera off the fault lines of thats what if i get off. Aljazeera. Where ever you are. This is James Jackson because his expression here so its impossible to know whats going through his mind at this moment just after he killed another person. This is the man who murdered Timothy Kaufman. James jackson didnt know kaufman who he was where he was from. He killed him for the one thing he did know about it. That he was a black man. Late at night on march twentieth jacksons victim Timothy Kaufman found himself on this corner in manhattan just half a block from where he lived for twenty years. At sixty six and retired coffin made a small amount of money by collecting cans and bottles to recycle. That night he was looking to a trash can on this corner when James Jackson came up from behind and stabbed him multiple times before running off. Bleeding cough and somehow managed to make his way to the Police Station around the corner. When he was taken to the hospital he was pronounced dead. When i heard it i just i cringed and just felt that knife you know thing would hurt me you know his purpose he said he come to kill many black men and see. His ear but you were pushing clark and her own womens new Timothy Kaufman since they were children growing up here in queens new york. Oh thats being a fancy. As i see it yet i didnt tend to nag for taking pictures with celebrities and he did it so much did they know him that check this out during the last fifteen years of his life timothy was a very frequent visitor to washington d. C. As he enjoyed attending the Current Congress you know hearings and budget policy sessions off then. While he was collecting bottles and cans he would save his money and get a bus ticket and get on that bus was a Greyhound Bus or whatever and go down to washington to go to capitol hill so he was in those stumble he was smart as though he was about he was about warning chains ok for the very say he was Something Else this is his bio that he put on twitter. Can and bottle recycle or autograph collector in new york city and i would love to visit california im a good businessman. Standing in line waiting to go i love america. Is there is a clear quality of tims that that you might miss the most. Just this time this. His his knowledge for him remember. Him china always pinch yourself and relate it to you are in a do you tell next generation tell a Younger Generation thats right he was about each one teach one he always had something to the next to say to the next generation that was important to him. The day after murdering Timothy Kaufman James Jackson turned himself in to police after itself put himself on the news. Jackson told police the kaufman to been a practice target and they intended to kill more black men. In court what did it feel like when terms of murder came in a new song that i think yeah and yet i had i could not muster. I was going to feel. The heat. In the community the way he came out chest out had a real proud when i seen him. I just started crying and i couldnt stop. Color of his skin is dead deep you hated that much. Its hard to believe. According to detectives a witness told them she heard kaufman say after jackson stabbed him why are you doing this what are you doing. This is what they handed out at the funeral in memory of Timothy Kaufman. Collar does not attack collar hate and prejudice unnatural the murder of Timothy Kaufman could seem random like an isolated it is but the ideology of hate behind this killing seems to be growing. It was on display just a few months later when hundreds of white supremacist White Nationalist and neo nazis gathered for a rally in charlottesville virginia. And the come from all over the country to protest the removal of a confederate statute by local officials. Clashes with antiracist to miss traitors the next morning that the governor to declare a state of emergency. This force rally organizers to move to a park a few miles away. One of the things we wanted to understand was if the rhetoric of the countrys new President Donald Trump had emboldened these groups media a lot of people like to kind of be like oh true its trumps phone or trump the calls this was a truck was a megaphone that he picked up is the best way to survive in the internet is where we live and im moving us out of that thinking everyone you know you hang out here getting off the couch as i first got that was a pretty a white consciousness as well as a movement thats for a white and white people. Listening to the leader speak gave us a window into the ideas that have drawn so many people here. Now its not a never right. Now its not over the idea that i would ever back down when the governor of the state of play or a state of emergency if they think that they dont understand whats in my heart they dont understand the all right they dont understand this entire movement the courage you showed today in defense of our people our heritage our country our values our freedoms. Will always remain in my memory in charlottesville this is a first step. Toward making a realisation of something that trump alluded to earlier in the campaign which is this is the first step toward taking america back yeah yeah. Were here to talk about why genocide the deed deliberate and intentional this placement of the white race which is happening we love our people we love europe we love america we love white people and thats why were here and there is nothing wrong with that. Was. Just after the speech was finished james fields a neo nazi drove his car through a crowd of antiracist demonstrators killing a young woman and injury dozens of others. But. Were closely following the terrible events unfolded in charlottesville virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms. This egregious display of hatred bigotry and violence on many sides on many so its never. I think in many ways charlottesville is our worst fears realized right we just experienced the most racist campaign in modern history with donald trump and it had the effect of energizing pretty much every faction of the extreme right in the United States. Oh. No no no no no not at. All or not. Its not surprising that this ended in violence right these are movements that are deeply connected to domestic terrorism and to hate crimes the says a completely kind of predictable fabriano. The right that you do that you are evil you cannot have just enough room to write you guys are you going to have my head mother was going to hate you its hard to make sense of the violence in charlottesville and the way the hate and anger on display there is manifesting across the country. By Government Data shows that over half of all hate crimes go in reported we still dont know that hate crimes and bias incidents have risen over the past few years particularly those against the Muslim Community according to the b. I. In two thousand and fifteen the last year federal data as available anti muslim crimes rose sixty seven percent from the previous year. Or. Thats part of a voicemail that was left at the small mosque in eugene oregon the man who left it called after he had already approached worshipers here one evening in may threatening to kill them this is the first time in many years when the person coming physically to the mosque and saying that he will kill muslims. So ok well learn all so well what do we say after the item is a member of the mosque in leeds classes for the children many of the kids who attend the mosque witnessed the Man Threatening to kill worshipers. He was arrested the next day after he threatened someone else in a park nearby. He was released for time served after two months in jail is now out and free. Now that hes out do you feel in danger again. You know to be honest some some of the kids also are traumatized by. Their words like three kids that were hearing this. He was claiming he has weapon and has bag. I i really cant imagine you know one of my fears to be honest is well if you know the situation happens to me in front of my kids that could a president. And i feel helpless go play with them go see what theyre doing. We talked about you know even if somebody that hates you we cant fight it with we focus on the actions implementing islam or the teachings of islam in our life and one of them is with dealing with hate. Or you know dislike what were going to do instead of. Love each other and then love will change the people even after a long time right. Its a peculiar thing though because most young kids dont have to be taught how to respond to hate i mean my kids go to summer camp and thats not a part of the curriculum hate crimes ive been on the rise unfortunately to be honest sujan has been a nice place its been changing a little bit and being bullied in school or you know somewhere else is is becoming as a norm those days and teaching them how to respond is very important. All right you know what would be and thats what i would say that show a love and compassion everyone faces of all the hatred thats been happening lately. When you consider what happened here and what happened just up the road of portland on the train does it make you feel targeted as a community of course. You know when incidents come after another its very easy is a real issue in the community. Just a few weeks after the threat to gigi mosque two men were killed on a metro train in Portland Oregon when they tried to stop a man from yelling at two black girls one who was wearing his job. This is the man that killed them Jeremy Christian during his arraignment. The americans leave this time we are free of. This place has become a memorial to the two men and the third who was wounded out on may twenty fourth on that attack. To an active member of a group no he wasnt i mean he sort of floated in and outs and he would show up at all right rallies those places will try to distance themselves from the extremists but they also bring them on board at the same time on a top level brings in a lot of people who are kind of mainstream they just dont want to pay their taxes or that or theyre progun or you know theyre sort of mainstream issues and then you go farther down and it becomes kind of an antigovernment ideology and then it becomes an anti semitic ideology and at the very bottom there is sort of the Timothy Mcveigh to believe that there is a need for a revolution a second American Revolution and i think thats where Jeremy Christian was you call here or not all that you do here he. Is a danger from the groups or is it bubbling down to these individuals that are so much harder to try yeah i mean thats a thats a really important question because when they are organized and out as a group we can see them we can take their pictures we know who the players are its the person whos sitting at home and find their laptop that is getting angrier and angrier at the world. The world of hate has changed there used to be organized hate groups that you became a member of and those folks are still there but their importance in the in the white supremacist counterculture has really dropped because of the internet where people can kind of participate as a klan rally happening twenty four hours a day seven days a week online that you can drop into anytime that you want. Im not talking about. Im talking about something. So the problem is that that echo chamber really becomes a magnification chamber and the more im in that world today the more angry i get and the more limited my explanations of whats happening i have basically one explanation you know its a conspiracy. Im. And its of these people are the good people and these people are bad people and you get this kind of very black and white thinking which is very appealing to young people especially young males and you get two things one is you get a rationale how the world works and who the bad people are and the second is you get an action plan you have to fight them. In the case of James Jackson after he was arrested he told a new york newspaper that he only shared his views online like that he believed quote the white race is being eroded. One of the sites he specifically mentioned was the White Supremacy the daily stormer. All of this raises the question what responsibility do Tech Companies have when it comes to dealing with hate speech online i think that the Tech Companies in general have not done enough to battle White Supremacy on their Networks White supremacists are using major platforms to get their ideas out there is nothing different about this than isis. Weve been working with the Tech Companies to try to get them to take these issues more seriously and maybe now after charlottesville they well i dont know i dont know how many wake up calls you date on this. In the aftermath of charlottesville a number of sites including the daily stormer had their domain registrations revoked. But on the Worlds Largest social media site facebook there are deeper problems in the way hate speech can thrive with Something Like this which is a mockery of the murder of this black child they would take this down they didnt take it down for a very long time i reported it dozens of times and mchugh cyril is the director of the center for media justice and an activist with black life matter in the bay area activists like mark here have been working to make Tech Companies understand how to recognize racism on their platforms how does facebook to find hate speech here i hear anything that directly attacks people based on what are known as their protected characteristics that seem straightforward is there a problem with yeah theres a problem with it because race means that. White is as protected class as black which the problem is if we live in a society where everything protects white people and very few things protect black people making those two things equally protected doesnt work it actually over protects white people and under protects black people with this often translates to is people of color being censored by facebook for speaking out about racism while Something Like this is allowed to stay on face but you have black activists that say things like White Supremacy is real i mean leslie mack her state her post says Something Like that right and her post was taken down and she was banned algorithms a program by human beings and human beings and not race neutral make America White again you can write your own make america this crosses a line for example and this is the kind of thing that i would im going to report this. Whats the message to you out of the photo make a while you can you know get rid of me i dont belong here i dont have the rights to live here and by any means necessary theyre going to make sure i dont feel welcome. Its not a slur or. Call for violence explicitly but when you say make America White again how exactly do you plan on doing that. It could be tempting to see all of this is solely related to donald trump but its more that the president has tapped into something thats been brewing for much longer two thousand and fourteen is when black last matter really began to take root. And that is when i think we begin to see some real backlash. In the year two thousand the Census Bureau announced for the First Time Ever that white people would be a minority at that time they said twenty forty two i think the date is somewhere around there and thats the moment base of the when we saw the number of hate groups in the United States start to rise that rise as reflected in attacks from the past decade. Liquid in the you not see killed six people at a sick temple wisconsin two thousand and twelve. And in two thousand and fourteen when a white supremacist killed three people outside a jewish retirement center. And in two thousand and fifteen when dylan roof going down nine africanamericans in a church in charleston south carolina. Overall from two thousand and one of til the end of last year there were sixty two attacks in the u. S. By far right violent extremists according to Government Data. And in the same time period there were twenty three attacks by quote unquote radical islamist violent extremists despite that since taking office trapes cut funding for groups that work to combat white supremacist and right wing violence its not just trump who hasnt been serious enough about white supremacist domestic terrorism during the bush years you know there was obviously this intense refocusing on radical islam i mean more than three thousand people died at the twin towers and you can understand why that would be what the Bush Administration did was completely drop the efforts that were put in place after Oklahoma City to address White Supremacy and kind of militia violence. The thing that makes it more problematic i would argue then radical islam in the United States context im not talking about overseas is White Supremacy is indigenous to this country it was founded on White Supremac

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