The results of last months disputed vote the repeat election in october had been ordered by the Supreme Court after it concluded there were irregularities in the earlier post that happened in august. Those are the headlines the news continues right here on aljazeera after the stream keep it or. Facing reality if a piece of machinery goes wrong is there a chance of litigation true which we can bring an ecosystem to bear getting to the heart of the matter i dont think we need it the one that some of my producers just to hear their story on talk to how does it at this time. Down the street were joined by special guest mo abraham the billionaire philanthropist who made his fame and fortune developing mobile phone services across the african continent now hes giving back through his work focused on promoting Good Governance and leadership in africa. Joining us from london though it were him is the founder of the moat Abraham Foundation and the motive for him prize the Worlds Largest prize award for excellence to a departing african leader his Foundation Also puts together our ambitions a one of a kind index on african governance and that was released today and abraham is called it a mirror to record exactly what is happening on the continent mo its great to have you on the stream when i think of african governance Good Governance i think about you when i hear your name i think about good african god of governance but when you were a young man what was it that you wanted to do what was your ambition. I love science and engineering. And do you want to be. What you to be. My or model when. I want to do. Inclination to be in business to be a lancer will i would. Like to be. I have a picture hey and this is you picking up and honoring a University Degree at Bradford University in its review our Professor John gardner what kind of student like him were you a diligent student. I was reasonable i was usually top of my class. My mother always installed the last importance of education. That is always for work lost their way out of property. It was very important for us to study i was always able to. So from there of course to your foundation we got this tweet from up there have a saying what motivated you to start your foundation which of course is one of the things you are known for now what was the impetus behind that. In obion. Isnt all of this comes from the area north of so the south of egypt. Weve lived there for thousands of years. Social cohesion. Caring for the community is part of our culture i was lucky i was a boy who made it good. Never expected to be a rich man and. Once you make some money then what is your what you going to do with that. I need to what to do give it back. To give it back in a meaningful way. You know food for children can. Make medicine and thats all wonderful and i love to be able to do that but i thought if i can find a way to stop help stop. People be poor being needy. Did was it the the root of the problem. Instead of the symptoms because it is nobody to africans to people because a continent is rich and theres not many African People. So we need to find the root why why are we poor. The answer i came up with is because mr root we have but the government and if we can improve the governance they dont gamble for thats why im going to focus on my work and they are governance to read sure that we have a Better Future for our children mo i asked our online audience serious question here what makes a good african leader i want to show you some of their responses delis says a good african leader has a clear vision and hes go all entitled the leader must be honest im worthy of trust he goes on to say he shams corruption doesnt undermine constitutional of fundamental rights of governance this we do not have another one here elements or says a lead a muslim his people subtly most African Leaders dont. And then sami these are his qualifications transparent brave these values disappear from our well as a leader such as mandela then now only stories what do you make of that theres this hope but also this reality. Listen i mean that is just not fair we have some wonderful leaders for africa in africa i mean look for me the problem is that we have a few bad apples which will make the news you ask everybody that you know makoto would say i would know which will we had no idea i mean we know but. Anybody know system and you know that but you know as much siri any nobody knows. Theres a look of wonder who are leaders but the media doesnt talk about i mean i can do wonderful stories about many of those t. Those many of them one hour awards and unfortunately we African People even dont know our heroes. That the that is it unfortunate and i love that you are keeping a positive here i kind of hate to be the bearer of bad news because one of the things that our Community Brings up time and time again is yes there are good leaders but theres also in demick corruption of course corruption happens all around the world and it takes different forms of our names but this is one of the things he will tweeted at us about challenges to Good Governance robert says corruption is the order of the day in uganda and as corruption systemic rot bribery rife in africa one theory is particularly and one other person psyche says corruption corruption and corruption when we asked about the challenges of governance now i know that when you launch your mobile Communications Company that would eventually become south how you were pretty adamant about keeping things transparent keeping corruption and bribery out of the dealings how did you do that. It was simple i mean predatory had a wonderful board i dont insisted almighty shareholders so it should be in the board fortunately i had. Investors from the i. O. C. The International Financial brain the. C. D. C. Which is really a branch of government. Which is the american government. Vision Man Development agency which is German Government ever more which is dutch government yes admittedly. There were small shareholders three percent four bits and five bits that might add insisted i was as people of the board so we had a board which has really a lot of powerful players and we took a solution that any chief executive running any of our companies in africa. Could not dispense more than thirty dollars that is our love of us. Any larger sons had to get adds up over the board so nobody can go to the voters c. E. O. And say give me a couple of maybe have to have an Election Year say sure you know well have a right to the board but that board. Nobody would try to lighten that kind of board asking for a play but. To be honest very few people ask for bribery and lets people know that you dont nobody will bother you and we have almost a member that. Bribery is like other it takes to. To commit that so business also is responsible for bribery and always complain about this issue look we are serious and we hold our regions in africa accountable is and we keep talking about it and expose it but what about the Business People who are involved in that do you know that all European Countries only. Or criminalized corruption around the year two thousand or seventeen years before that corruption and bribery was legitimate actually it was tax deductible. Sam guys lecturing africans about bribery. Letting their Business People bribe our leaders and actually give them tax incentives also to do it by two thousand be able measure the crime so then larger question whens the last time you hear that germany or france or denmark or sweden didnt. Detect any businessman to court over bribery in africa i havent heard about that so. The Business People are getting scot free nobody is shedding the light on that so little understand really unless International Community also become serious about the issue of corruption or cannot move forward we have been talking about Anonymous Companies where companies where nobody knows who owns it and this is a vehicle for the getaway car for for corruption money if you are really there and is gin money youre not going to walk to the local bank and put it there but you have to would have said all share come but its somewhere hidden behind some lawyers in it and who say that should indeed you know that should be stopped why we need Anonymous Companies and again we see governments that are in the heat of this issue corruption is a major issue but we need everybody to be serious identity so it is not i mean africa book corner the market in afghanistan i have to get real about right now let me show our audience where we are in terms of. Mo abraham index of african governments for this year and looking at this just a summary of third of the countries are driving overall in point improvement in african governments. That has some level of being positive but also a lot of room for improvement lets start with the the positive countries where would you point to in the continent where youre saying im so impressed by what theyve been doing. Clearly the countrys. Top ranking in power and if they cant those who show up doing quite well and moving forward. Countries like. But which one. Do well or zot sometimes also they story here and there but such achieve such high. Marking that really far ahead so in the top six or seven cantonese they actually desire to be much movement. We see a country like a give birth is doing well sometimes its a good story a little bit but really up there. Have a number of really good go Good Companies which are. Delivering services and people who are. Doing the right see. They dont have of course this small group of countries which are down there have been down there for a long line and. Some some of them suffer from conflicts and conflicts Armed Conflicts and social unrest usually destroy governments. But some of them came out of it and moved forward so very. Very cool you know i would of course for example came out from a difficult time and now theyre one of the best actuary. Tunisias doing well. The only country which managed the what they call this brinkley video shows in a sensible way and for what they have challengers but joins a top ten so well moderately i hate to cut you off there because i love the list of the countries that are doing well but unfortunately there are many members of our community and some of the countries that may be not doing so well so lets get straight to it this is a tweet here its there implicating the country i think you can read through the lines pauline says should leaders stay in power for thirty seven years and of course shes referencing our president Robert Mugabe of uganda zimbabwe excuse me this is a video card and we actually got out of zimbabwe about that leader have a listen to what you need to monitor told us you see. The fish first we look at the state and i think that. And with all that has been happening in my country deeply which so much corruption of transparency and accountability i think of the mind leadership needs to change so my question to you is can we really. Dog new tricks can we change the mindset of our leadership and of course the top line of the news today for zimbabwe is that he has ignored a ruling party lead a decision to make sure that he resigns he faces impeachment now so what do you make comment there. It is really affronts for a number of years ive been making statements about situations and asking the question how come. Our continent is a continent of young people vast majority of our people are brought in years or. Why we have somebody at my just three years or sink it can really blends if you chose us who are good people who you know is not saying about them look when they are sixty five years or if you are a teacher engineer dr whatsoever people say thank you very much i have a test now is my rabbit telling us that the running a country is such a trivial job that somebody cannot stay away for two hours we should be able to do it. It is a nicholas and it is so sad that. He has had been a hero of the independence is that i can end up his political life like this if you leave on time. People would mean that that would have meant then his legacy look at mandela he came out of but his own set of just wanted him to not even to stay for a second and say ok guys goodbye get somebody younger to do it this is leadership. Let me just show you something this is from again from this years index its about huMan Development and for the the legend anyway that screen is showing improvement dark green a lot of improvement the paint areas are areas first concern but im just thinking in terms of Human Resources on the african continent its young people that are so important so this is a pretty good scar for the continent fifty six point one out of one hundred one why do you focus so much on the youth of the continent because you feel that they are critical to how it goes for its. Number one the majority of the arab nation as young people so that is that the majority of our people secondly does our future. Will have its ordinary over young to be able comic forward our demography wherever you wish while in this. Early ages our democracy is different from any other continent or else. This one that we have young people your age number of young fourteen million young to be able to come to the marketplace to work working age every year fifty Million People now that is a it to edge sort. If we create in those people if you would your kid there would have an amazing workforce in africa with japanese our aging europeans our aging. Theres not enough young people to really run the states and Services Everywhere we have this wealth of young educated people thats a great advantage for us but if were fit to train for the skills to this young people what will happen will end up with millions and millions of young people frustrated jobless desperate what youre going to do there were not i in the sahara to recognize as a hotter theyre going to die in the military and yet right across a better life or theyre going to become arms to join a terrorist group or. At least get paid doing zach and they but i tend to have some kind of dignity or a mission carrying the machine guns. We had this is the crucial issue for us all to our future in africa depends on whats going on what were going to do with our young people its going to this way are going to go that way so we really have to understand that there is someone who would agree with you earlier says determination is already an established factor in African Youth but the finance is a major brouhaha to their entrepreneurial dream so one of the challenges there but i want to pivot just a little bit to play a video comment from a former president this is president mugabe former president of its one who was actually ever set the end of your award in two thousand and eight and here is what he told the story. This is the provision has allowed me to continue with my life after the nation has. Focusing on the end of a piece such is the election of the vision. Mediation empathy station did they teach our children the foundation each but into africa. So just obliterated from vision so must i think about the asian African Wildlife trust and the difficulty of year. I research continue to work with their Venture Partners to prevent the spread of a check. Book what do you mean for african governments will be. A question straight to your mother ham. Well i didnt hear the question quite clearly it was asking me whats next and what is your wish for african governance for the year ahead very specific twenty teen. I really hope to see i brought right into your question and creating of young people shorting to the point where im just wondering with this index that comes out every year theres not one in europe theres not one in last america theres not one in the americas not one in asia what is it that it can do as an index to help the continent. I think what were doing in africa is unique and i have many people would like to do just share for issue on europe bill gates was very keen to try to persuade your appearance of the one for europe especially after the crisis in two thousand and eight you spoke about that in davis and but nobody came forward to do it for as ever and that america does have medicare they always say to me all this is why do you come and go on and x. For us and in general guys im an african i do africa you guys do your own continent. Well i think somerset some people. Im looking at some of the past recipients of the mo ibrahim prize. And not only prize went to Nelson Mandela and then here a us impasse laureates im just wondering thinking ahead could that be former female president joining that lineup of lawyers is it possible do you see that what youre gonna tell me you are right about. To Say Something about ellen i think and im not going to say anything because i have im not a member of the Prize Committee i have no vote i dont know what they discussed it is a separate organization which already sources which does its an assertion of the sites we know it gave before we go bob nick in february sometime in february over there to be able to answer your question. We have time for just one more video comment and this is out of khartoum have a listen to show again. Putting in mind a dissolute government is now working on repairing the relations and ties with who the site is any new plants or programs of money right he is working on to respond to the recent critical is a decision only concrete fields how do you contribute and empower you to know either two thirds of this in his community are between the ages of eighteen and t