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ALJAZ Al Qaeda Informant December 5, 2017

Palestine jordan egypt and saudi arabia to inform them of his intention to move the u. S. Embassy in israel from tel aviv to jerusalem to or from his plan has been met with criticism across the board the palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas saying it will have dangerous consequences and the saudi king warning it will inflame the feelings of muslims President Trump is expected to announce his decision on wednesday after a six month waiver to delay the move expired israel claims that all of jerusalem as its United Capital while is jerusalem is seen by palestinians as the capital of their future state. Our position the position of president problem this is very clear and if. The American Embassy is going to be moved to jerusalem this is against the. This is this would be unacceptable for. If this happens it would complicate things. With an obstacle to the Peace Process maybe it will be the end of the Peace Process. Back from. A gambling ill get joins us live now from washington d. C. And kimberly we know that President Trump has failed to sign that crucial waiver that would prevent any move by the u. S. Embassy in israel what further clarification do we have on what he plans to do. Well were really hoping that well get some at any moment Sarah Sanders the White House Press secretary is due to hold her briefing where there is no doubt she will be getting questions about this what we know from covering president trucks now since his inauguration that until it actually comes out of his mouth it is subject to change so weve heard a number of possible combinations with regard to this but certainly it does seem that the announcement of a potential move out of the u. S. Embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem seems imminent but again that is something that is subject to change right up until the moment the president gives his planned speech on wednesday in the meantime though i can tell you that he is getting all kinds of cautioning from leaders around the world to do just the opposite not just outside the United States of we have been reporting but also inside the United States such as groups such as j. Street a liberal leaning pro israel group that is very committed to a two state solution in a press release they call it a profound mistake to move that embassy as well there are Foreign Services officers inside the state department who are also cautioning the white house against this and also to we know that because of the concern that there could be potentially violent backlash within the department of state Diplomatic Security is deploying high threat federal agents to a number of hot spots around the around the globe really because of the concern of the kind of reaction that this announcement from the president could have so certainly the white house getting a lot of caution against this but at the same time it appears the announcement of some potential move in some form or fashion is imminent all right thanks very much coming out and washington d. C. Foreign ministers tell g. C. C. Leaders that the bloc remains crucial to regional stability catherine quite well the only gulf nations which sent heads of state to the summit in kuwait city others were represented by ministers or deputy prime ministers the meeting follows a regional dispute which began when saudi arabia bahrain in the u. A. E. Cut ties with cast out in june. I would like to point out the reason for this summit jordan is very sensitive time regionally and internationally and that is the wisdom and the good judgment of all the leaders of the g. C. C. And their belief of the importance of this organization under any circumstance. And the funeral of former yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh has been postponed it was killed near santa on monday after five days of fighting with hoofy rebels the who had been his allies until he recently announced he was switching sides crowds of hoofy supporters have been rallying in the capital to celebrate the groups takeover of son are in silence death. Aljazeera investigations starts now a bit later. Yup will be dead at that middle connection i intimated that he will give me a bit of. What get checked back up on the one bus i thought somebody had asked me if i dont they had that book i had that i many a cabinet give us on. This former al qaeda operative has approached al jazeera with information. His testimony contained serious allegations against Ali Abdullah Saleh the man who governed yemen for more than three decades. Its a story of intrigue manipulation and if it is to be believed a deception of the highest magnitude. There is a saying that always goes alongside not the last name which is dancing on the heads of snakes. He was an absolute master at working all the different constituencies in the country making sure that some kind of way a cool librium was achieved and maintained to his interest in our investigation we examine the credibility of claims made by this informant. That Ali Abdullah Saleh is nephew gave money and explosives to al qaeda. That the deputy leader of al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was a government informant. And that behind this grand deception may have been the former president himself. At the shift and that being mean he had that. Aspect yet that you have the last almost say that i am the last night at the moment i left the asylum when i hadnt the limit by a bad as saddam and lama and then you had that i let a lot of bell kind of have at of the essence. It started out a little bit different than most days although that and the patterns of my Early Morning were more or less the same but i was supposed to go with my wife to cairo that morning. I arrived at the embassy a little before nine and i remember of tar all fucking up the game because he was one of the friendly gate guards and he said good morning and i said hello and i wished him happy ramadan. While i was in my office trying to tidy up whatever loose ends we had i had a press briefing as i normally do just to make sure that i had a handle it was going on we could make sure everything was kind of on our screens in our radar for any action that might be needed and i was at my desk again going through the final checks on paper is what i need to. Do that with explosion occurred. I could feel the blast wave and i could see from my window the smoke outside the embassy wall. My immediate concern were for the two ladies in my office so i got them in do bullet proof vests and move them to an interior room that had no windows and just to get them say. Everyone down to the post one which is where the marine on duty stands. He could see on the scammers that there was at that point an explosion outside a jeep had driven directly into a machine gun encampment. It was a vehicle painted military colors. And wearing a yemeni court. Began firing at the diplomatic compound. I got on the following the f. B. I. Headquarters i said hey this is rick finally get in send. The embassies under attack and then there were guys with followed in that attack in another s. U. V. The security guard. Was still at the front gate. One of the terrorists popped up out of the roof with an a k forty seven and started engaging all of the Yemeni Security officers and cut the target out shot in multiple times. While he was being gunned down he put the gate guard down at the law. And gave the life. The attackers killed twelve people amongst them an eighteen year old yemeni american. All seven of them and then blew themselves up. The main Embassy Grounds had not been breached. There was a lot of body parts there were severed bodies and heads and and their terrible just awful human the image. You know forget the smells or sounds its you know blood has sort of a sickly coppery smell to it burning flesh has a very distinctive unpleasant smell to it. Western intelligence agencies blamed all kind of for the attack. In the following months a new group al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula emerged they were described as one of the most active wings of the franchise. But allegations made to al jazeera. Suggests the truth may be much more complex. Than that. He said. And. Im going to. Let maddow my. Yanni because i think i should have been dismissive had only me. Because. At the last ephedrine. Anyone just had says he infiltrated the bomb makers and informed government officials about the attack. And. Defeat. At mena shabby little room that hed. Need then he cannot provide and. Can. At m. T. V. That. That. View. Its twelve thirty. This former al qaeda operative once tried to take his evidence to the cia but was prevented by Yemeni Security agents. Eventually his testimony made its way to me. Im Clayton Swisher head of al jazeera is investigative unit. What evidence you have how do you know not what you think how do you know. I spent three long days debriefing. The easiest story is the truth tell us the truth but on one issue he was clearly invasive. That you prepare the bomb. We have since confirmed that mujahid was a bomb maker. Thats how he gained detailed knowledge about attacks planned by his leadership in yemen. It was a paid informant for both of yemens main counterterrorism agencies he admits he informed about the attack on the u. S. Embassy. Because he expected of reward. And ahead. Shadi has an amnesty. Meskin with the fact you know i know. Him. And he and he had. One hundred people that had access to chemical craft. And. We scrutinized his claims and assess whether they make a compelling case against Ali Abdullah Saleh and the family that once ruled yemen. And. Some of the lead up to him oh my god i know he would go getter. I look around at the lad i had the apple but at the the hole that i am not at the end the right guy and i it had to be mean. But he didnt look at them the day he did anybody he had what he had he have a did a lot of what i sort of feed that if i dont have any i would finish cleaning up. John had trained new recruits at an al qaeda camp in afghanistan. His right thumb was blown off during what he describes as a training accident. Why not even ask eric how do we get going to have him get on. The head he can at the sight of a vendetta get done. Had fought in the war in afghanistan until two thousand and two soon after he fled to pakistan. At kandahar not bad enough that was it is that one had to make them what they make yeah and with i laugh i stand. Head was arrested in two thousand and four pakistani and u. S. Intelligence agents interrogated him. He was detained with another man who has confirmed to al jazeera that we giants account of events in both afghanistan and pakistan were truthful. To overcome the challenges we faced in verifying his detailed accusations we enlisted the help of former intelligence officers. Robert granny a was the cia station chief in pakistan until two thousand and two he did not meet mujahid but he is well placed to analyze his account. Reading some of this i once again had the same stomach aches that i had when i was operating in the field. We have shown granny a transcript of three days of interviews with me. It certainly seems that an image i had is who he says he was when he was in afghanistan virtually everything that he says tracks with what i know about where al qaeda was how they were operating what they were doing particularly from nine eleven onward. We have also shown them to a former agent with britains m i six who later became head of the United Nations Al Qaeda Monitoring Team Richard Barrett said. The background that he describes of him being in afghanistan and going back to yemen and getting involved with al qaeda again in yemen you know his credit. After he was sent back to yemen had spent two years in jail. In august two thousand and six he walked free. Months later he says he began his work as a government informant inside al qaeda in yemen can i have that up any bad. Dad he has and im going to have a day after i named and. Head alleges the government was involved in creating and controlling al qaeda in yemen. The evidence supporting his claims begins in february two thousand and six. At a high security prison in sanaa twenty three al qaeda operatives dug a one hundred forty meter tunnel to a nearby mosque they escaped reportedly just using spoons and plates. Solve the tunnels for myself and that be a lot of work was it is beyond belief that somebody could build a tunnel like that and nobody you know. Everybody is just making jokes for a long time because that prison was supposed to be a very strong prison. I dont think anyone is convinced that this was not done without the knowledge of the Security Services at the prison. A lot of the people who are operating now and they were all in that prison break and to think that they escaped as very alarming. Among the fugitives was a man who would go on to lead al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula nasir. To have. The money its in sochi and. If the music. Back. In the same prison break. Today his al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is military commander. And if it bad in the shadow. How they had a good then you know have delivered how they get then. Amongst his fighters he enjoys pricks. I dont. Want to. Get hit and you know what the support and emphatic no i mean in that he said more in hand than a human and and a bad guy that you know you halliday and and yeah i dont like that he won that then i will take it its an act. For decades ill leave the list sali and his family controlled all the important security agencies in yemen. One of the top men in charge of the war against al qaeda was colonel marsala the president s nephew. A man rarely filmed colonel maher was the deputy head of the National Security bureau the agency that judd spied for. I dont go to him she could he have some lead. That he could have had be had become a go but it that he had any. At that it i mean. If he had not you know i see how it. I should have to get to get that. Right and they may have to get a good idea. Now marcello is not someone you want to bring him to dinner with mom this is surely a more new role of bodies were buried and i dont mean that literally i mean that figuratively of course but he was very effective in his job. Less than eighteen months after the prison break al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was planning its first major attack just had knew about it and says he told colonel. And i took a guy im not hacked anyone could do could be this way. Can i. Get the v. A. I. E. Anything could it be to get. That i thought i did and then a home would better than be in a now. Well but on i couldnt had. During the summer of two thousand and seven john had also had regular meetings with all kiters two leaders at their marriage desert hideout and often refers to all raimi and always by their nicknames. And i will. Feel much and im an e. S. L. Back. Then a feast on are. You. Going into this briefing at the White House Press secretary south of the saunas and is going through a questions on your way down the ministrations intentions i mean anything thats ever since and youll make tomorrow he did speak with a number of leaders this morning and hes going to continue to have conversations with relevant stakeholders but ultimately hell make what he feels is the best decision for the United States has to say other than israel which things in this movie twenty two years overdue that all of the feedback hes been getting from World Leaders is overwhelmingly negative so no again he spoke with five leaders thats hardly indicative of everybody across the globe but certainly you know hes going to continue to have conversations with different leaders from across the world and well keep you posted as those calls take place and well let you know when the president s made a decision so soon there i guess the president said that he felt very badly for general clinton would he consider heartening im not aware of that that has come up or any process or decision on that front you have got it or no im going to ask you i have to say i havent asked the president whether or not he would be. Thinking i think before we start discussing the pardons for individuals we should see. You know what happens in specific cases to your state on the team no i just said i havent had the conversation with them because i dont feel that its necessary until you know you get further down the road and determine whether or not thats even something needed see if you ever see it has the president made up his mind about a future one of these decisions still in flux and that the president and i would say is pretty solid in his thinking at this point april there are questions one hundred there are comments from people in the end only a few feet from black ministers meeting planning on protesting in week on this week the president s visit to the Civil Rights Museum listing i think that would be honestly very sad i think this is something that should bring the country together to celebrate the opening of this museum and highlighting Civil Rights Movement and the progress that weve made and i would hope that those individuals would join in that celebration instead of protesting it however they have every right to protest it jordan its an insult coming from the sheets charlottesville the back and forth president couldnt get his statement straight on charlottesville i think he got his statement very clear when he condemned all forms of racism bigotry and violence theres no gray area there and i think he made it very clear what his position is jordan they sarah to the president know that michael when he lied to the f. B. I. At the time that you are at work look the president knew that he lied to the Vice President and that was the reason for his firing matthew i dont follow writes ive been listening to my house wi

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