We need to rethink European Investment in africa. Rethink our Development Programs and provide or help to provide african countries so that their youth have viable Sustainable Futures and their own country and in addition there needs to be some form of legal migration channels which has been promised by europe for many many decades which is not materialized. And the the greek and the italians have been saying that the burdens so to speak should be spread fairly among all the countries as a start up to the southern countries of the arrival points of the migration trend that should be sorting most of the burden how can that approach move forward now. When the good thing about the European Union is that its not a function limited single issue organization. A form of into dependence in which the request for a solidarity is expressed in different ways be through engens for example i asked for more support in security towards Russia Germany once to relocate refugees as an act of burden sharing in the fuel that of Asylum Seekers and others simply want money and by putting all these things together its a chance that we combine what has been said before about addressing the root cause of protecting the border organizing a reader. Also a form of resettlement of those who applied for asylum and have been rejected because that undermines the credibility of the legal system no matter how tempting will be reformed and such a comprehensive approach has a much better. Chance to the except of by countries with very different interests cathing europe has been really divided over deadlocked over the proposal to bring them in thats remembrance. Is this something that is now a turn and that everyone is willing to move beyond it. Well i think the Relocation Program was not a successful as it should have been but still 27000 people were relocated primarily out of grace and that means theres 27000 people who arent in situations of detention and suffering the humanitarian consequences of europes policy on the islands and grace and so it would be wrong to call that a to failure i think what we need now is a revival of relocation mechanisms with the countries that are willing to be part of those mechanisms just so that we can. Have a situation where ships rescue ships are able to dock and those are very much short term measures whats needed in the long term is a reform of the regulations themselves so that responsibility is shared more evenly among the Member States and not just based on where somebody arrives which will always create a sort of geographic chance that the largest extent of responsibility would lie with the countries at the borders so there is work to be done on a number of Different Levels and i think there are opportunities now with the changes in the institutions in brussels with certain political changes and the sense that some of the fantasy ideas of outsourcing all responsibility to other regions really are not going anywhere just how do you see the possibility for a consensus in europe about these issues when you have italy for example its a river example where salvini has been introducing a. Very heavy handed approach to migration to the point where he is paving the way for the right to extradite migrants and also revoke their italian citizenship isnt this something that was just going to continue and divide you well its certainly a possibility but if you look at this spanish approach over the last 18 months theres no except for more migrants than has italy. And the number of total migrants has dropped from about 220000 of his peak in 2015 to 10000 so what we have available to us is a chance to consolidate resources movie your resources closer to where its needed to deal with migrants and refugees and and help people really in need of help this isnt a gap here and out there that could be utilized to provide assistance to recognize common humanity rather than to demonize migrants. Then right but then when you have as the u. N. Refugee and by was agencies are saying you have the number of people trying to cross to europe has dropped by 80 percent isnt this a car that could easily be used by the far right by the by solving it in particular to say you know what its because of our hardline stance that we are fixing this problem forget about e. U. Resolutions well thats the nature of our populists campaign that you dont need to care about the facts you can always do if the numbers are high demonize things and if the numbers are low you can claim that this is just because of your hard stance and to be fair to be tried very different approaches to europeanize migration policy the previous government did the exact opposite with the nostromo to help people in need wherever they could and were left alone and were told by countries that were not directly affected that they should stop this because it chose to increases the burden on european states but there is a chance how this could be you solved in the near future and this has a lot to do with money we are discussing the 7 years multi annual Financial Framework until the end of next year and the moment money is in one of you always have a way to compensate the different burdens in forms that is attractive to everyone no matter if its hungarys or one government that is demonizing refugees or countries that are directly affected by people in the mediterranean kothari the issue of refugees migrants shape the narrative in europe particular into 1000 of 121314 with the hundreds of thousands of people crossing into europe now europe is not the same you have breaks it and you have that the rise of the populists and the far west and were talking about the need to fix the problem of migrants when you have could not be the same again isnt this something this is going to definitely have been a huge impact on the issue of migrants in the near future. Well firstly i dont think we should talk about the problem of migrants because the real crisis within europe is the demographic crisis and if europe doesnt actually accept new populations it really will have problems and that is true for every country in europe even those that are most fervently against accepting new populations so i think what weve seen is that the extreme right has been able to exploit the situation that was provoked by the conflict in syria which led to quite a large number of people seeking protection in europe however even during that situation in 2015 the numbers of people arriving in europe were far less than the numbers seeking protection in other countries in other regions and europe could and should have managed so i dont think we should present this is something that was impossible for europe the crisis is something that was generated and exploited by particular political leaders so that may continue on the other hand we also have to remember that the extreme right has always been part of europes Political Landscape unfortunately. Im those those parties and those leaders come and go what we dont want to see is mainstream politicians technocrats officials and others absorbing the myths the misinformation and the mis presentation including the misrepresentation of Public Opinion that we have from the extremists so its partly about strategy in terms of dealing with yes the situation and making it a win win but also in terms of dealing with these Political Forces in a way that doesnt actually strengthen them. And all not i would say salvini will fortunately not be with us for ever so we also hope within italy to have a return to a more balanced approach. On other of the very peak of of the migrants crisis europe explore different possibilities like giving incentives to north african countries to police the border trying to address issues in Subsaharan Africa has that policy fades yes it has failed its largely been premised on on enforcing borders and preventing injury in to europe there has been money given that its not been given me appropriate levels or for the appropriate use of Genuine Development and less we rethink our approach to it and our International Commitments to International Development then then we will continue to see people seeking to enter one way or the other into europe or north america for that matter so we need to rethink we need to think our way out of the problem that the answer is a simple no or that or the creation of a fence all that happens is that misery gets shifted elsewhere or that people drown in the mediterranean it is a complex problem it needs better thought. John has been talking about the need to the think the approach and one of the problems that the International Community is facing is instability in libya and the irony here is that the itself is divided about how to move forward and how to solve the political crisis in libya. Well this is just one problem among many problems in which the e. U. Is divided all countries are differently affected which you dont find a comprehensive approach whether you use picks with one voice and a lot of problems are even deeper root of them to go back to the colonial history that puts the blame on some countries but certainly not on all countries which causes a different discourse about is it our problem do we have to address it whos going to pay for it and that makes it extremely complicated but to go back to the question about has it something to do with the upcoming recession or the Economic Situation i dont think that this goes hand in hand that if we are doing well economically than we have a more humanitarian approach we can observe the exact opposite that for example in the United States the Klu Klux Klan and the spirit of racism was strong when the country was as prosperous as never before and we also have a situation in germany where we have a much longer time span of prosperity and still the ultimate evil for george from the right wing islamophobia and racist group find support up to 12 percent of the German Parliament this is going to be my last question to katherine please cathy less than a minute do you think it would be possible in the near future to change the public sentiment in the europe and bring it back to those years when it was really receptive to the idea of providing help to those migrating to europe. Well 1st the majority of the population in europe is still strongly supportive of offering protection to refugees so this is something thats often lost in the debt debate there are there is a segment of the population and those are the people voting for the extremists trying to prevent all migration including refugees and those who need protection and i think its a matter of those mainstream parties commentators leaders trying to retain some sense of rationality humanity and accurate presentation of the debate and that may not completely change the picture some of these issues are almost like perpetual struggles but the battle to present this in the appropriate way has to continue catherine and John Campbell are a broker thank you very much indeed and looking forward to seeing you in the near future to visit the story of migrants and europe and thank you too for watching you can see the program again and of time by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. 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Hello martin dan is in doha and these are the top stories here at aljazeera the United States government has made a formal request to gibraltar to block the release of an Iranian Oil Tanker the grace one was seized by British Forces last month because it was suspected of breaking International Sanctions by shipping on oil to Syria Supreme Court judges in the british overseas territory were expected to order the vessels release but their decision has been delayed Andrew Simmons has the latest from gibraltar. It lasted no more than around 10 minutes this Court Hearing and the attorney generals lawyer looked particularly ruffled because he had effectively 2 requests to make war on the request to actually release this tanker allow it to go in a direction of law in the mediterranean we dont know where precisely at this stage because we never got the details on the other hand he also informed the judge that hed heard from the department of justice a number of contacts made on wednesday night in the in the early hours of thursday morning 0136 to be precise he said that he wants to proceed with both of those requests it was rather rather confusing to say the least the judge also seemed a bit bemused by it all and said really that the the u. S. Application hadnt actually formally been made and he would want to consider the original application which the gibraltar gibraltarian attorney general wanted to make so what happened in the end was an agreement for an adjournment until 4 oclock local this is going to be we assume a formal application from the u. S. Department of justice a pretty last minute thing to say the least because the u. K. Had evidently come to an agreement or major is possibly with the iranians for a guarantee that this 2100000. Barrels of crude would not go to syria in line with the sanctions imposed by the European Union sometime back so we have a situation where no one is quite sure which way the attorney general will push this and which way that the judge will go were going to find out later. Pictures of emerged of Chinese Security forces near the border with hong kong where antigovernment protests continue chinas government insists theyre there for routine military exercises u. S. President donald trump says hes confident chinese xi jinping committees over the arm rests in hong kong without violence in a tweet here for the talks and tied the protests to a u. S. Trade deal with china from a bride has more from hong kong and weve been hearing in the last couple of weeks reports of paramilitary activity videos released from official sources in china of Paramilitary Forces suppressing demonstrators in exercises with the demonstrators wearing black t. Shirts which we know is that black t. Shirts worn by the demonstrators here in hong kong giving orders in canton ease the local dialect to disperse but also reports of vehicles being seen on the road lots of military activity a movie but this is the 1st time weve seen such a concentration i think of scores of vehicles all in the one place and also what gives these pictures a credibility is the fact that they were released by 2 western News Agencies indias Prime Minister has defended theres a sit in to effectively an ex parts of indian administered kashmir in a speech to celebrate independence from british rule 72 years ago theyre under modi said the decision to remove the regions autonomy will promote Economic Growth and national unity. The dow jones had suffered its worst loss of the year in the 4th largest single day drop on record for the u. S. Market the index closed 800. 00 points or 3 percent lower asian markets also did in the wake of u. S. Losses it was driven by a growing fears of a global recession. 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