Entirely for the federal budget your burden of those of those terrorists are borne by American Consumers look if they have a lot of them if thats the case then why would china care the fact is anyway before bearing the cost of it just here are some of the i so enjoyed this conversation because yes steve oh youre all going with yourself im not the one who said im not the one who said every quote or tariff imposed on the u. S. Hurts residents of the United States because all restrictions hurt the United States that tariffs have never would always end in an unhappy ending because you also let me explain all you with youll see because its an important point do i think that these these tariffs on china are hurting American Consumers absolutely there was just a little trouble to this he did look he says the chinese and not any americans are paying the tariff thats a lie you know thats a lie you say that you are saying is the the book of the cost of the terrorists is being borne by the chinese through depreciating their currency theyre providing increasing subsidies to their companies and when they do that the cost is borne by the chinese not. United states people have done the studies on the stephen reading a print i love that you dont even know what i found what were seeing even reading is that one of the countrys top experts on International Trade is a professor of economics at princeton. All of the u. S. Tariffs to be imports passed absolutely for consumers thats what do you think its a bit about but about would you are supported having free trade with nazi germany or the japanese search china is now hes in germany we are in china not i do i do think we are in a new cold war with china with china now as a german about china nazi germany in 2015 when you said why are we picking an economic weight i dont care about the Human Rights Violations in china i care about about them bill im wondering what you care about there about a given 2015 you didnt care about them you said do we really want to pick an economic war with china where theyre not in 2015 the only consolation i think this is that you said it in the National Review article china is our number one import market do we really want to pick an economic war with then i then we should right now is you telling us that even more of 25 we have to he was wrong we have to know he was wrong and trouble trouble on the floor of 2019 tells us Stephen Moore 2050 lets go to our panel who are waiting patiently to come in here and join the discussion rick wilson is a long time republican political strategist who has worked for george h. W. Bush Rudy Giuliani among others since 2015 hes been a leading i think its fair to say conservative critic of President Trump author of the book everything trump touches dies now theres a title you and stephen have moved in similar right wing circles youve both worked on republican president ial campaigns who better represents conservative economic principles right now you or him well work im not an economist by trade or training steve it is but i will say this i still believe with the things that i think stephen believed before which is the primacy of free markets and now we have a president who wants to talk companies what to make where they can make it who engages in state capitalism sort of crony capitalist things and i think stephen you know prior stephen and now stephen theres a big dichotomy there and its i dont think its stephen alone i think there are a lot of republicans who display. That compromise you know so im curious like how does it feel to like to flip so fast and so hard resolve that ive always said read write. With me respond that ive always said the single most important thing to reduce the National Debt in the deficit and i think its important priority for the United States is to grow the economy to put more people to work to make more American Companies you know richer and more profitable rick we have done that in spades stephen you mentioned the economy is greater than ever before more bring in journalist reviews hes a constitutional lawyer member of the trump 20 twentieths Advisory Board all through the book the legal basis for a moral constitution Genet Stephen says talks about this great economy anyone paying attention to the news recently and look at some of the numbers coming out theres a fear of a recession or at least a downturn coming maybe even ahead of of the next election how does a selfinflicted recession someone argue given the trade war how does that fit with the whole make America Great again message going into 2020 this could be a problem for him is it not we want to talk about the constitution here not 100 percent of economic factors can be directly attributable to a single president and so with you look at the leadership style of barack obama its a great point see where i was getting republicans during the Obama Program but i think that thats the but we did it and i certainly am and you know congress is also very much responsible and both sides and how worried are you about a recession but i think that we are point about self infliction is is also very very consistent with what were seeing with the Mainstream Media who are so intact in a stacked against this particular president that they are the ones that are creating a false narrative so i listen to it even once this is like to give him an opportunity will give him over to actually its so good at all if youre going to let me get going rather than trying to do it question is ition so much when you say the Mainstream Media is to blame for the post talking about a recession do you include the white house chief of staff and that Mick Mulvaney said there might be a short moderate recession next year is he part of the Mainstream Media there there might be but i think that youre trying to prove tax and isolate these comments and try to spin them into your narrative rather despondent you know just going to the white house to. Tiffany and i were going to move in but you say youre going to stick it out on this do you come back as one problem Tiffany Cross is the cofounder managing editor of the National News outlet the d. C. Liberal commentator youre shaking your head that you want to come in and respond so i its really clear that the campaign is in full blown panic mode because hes fallen short on some of the promises that he made in 2016 to help perpetuate this false idea that people voted for him because of economic anxiety and you know given that this administration is kind of faulty relationship with the truth why is it anybody believe what you or any representative of this Administration Says when most of your Economic Solutions seem more based on messaging and attacking what jenna calls the Mainstream Media and calling facts are untrue. So yeah but thats happening to. People that have not reversed course on the debt and i think that that is a huge value album and i think should be related to that were so that it shouldnt be reelected then no im saying well you shouldnt 20 others you know saying people really and i definitely should not hear reelected look i think you have to look the whole range of issues and what trump has done on the economy and i think its been spectacular lets talk about immigration people have called trumps immigration policy dangerous crazy extreme nativist what do you say to them i say that we have to build a wall we have to secure our border i am totally in favor of a better way. To be the most pro moderation person in this room ive written books and books ive written ive written are you still im so im totally proimmigration so do you think trumps policy is dangerous crazy extreme let me do you think this dangerous to myself the question do you think is dangerous crazy an extreme no i think those are your words look you thought i think trumps policy is a crazy policy with a very extreme nativist position its a very dangerous thing to do and 2015 before you went to work now heres what i believe. I dont always agree with his positions on immigration but i do believe that until we get the border secure and we get that wall bill once we do that we can increase our Legal Immigration and i am for immigrants coming into this country who want to contribute to is going to. This is an administration has backed legislation to haul of ilLegal Immigration the ones to accept 0 refugees next year they support the bill in 2017 wants to end the Visa Lottery Program and family migration crackdown on this analysis of legal or not true let me know how it got helped i helped write its just not true to me just because i helped write the bill i know more about the bill than you do i have had im going great until theres a lot of not and family immigration what the ad bill does that allows spouses and children to come into this country a preserves the sanctity of our president every one of the presidency and a president go off and chain migration visa the whole point is all Legal Immigration policy not put will hold on heres what were doing but were basically saying yes an immediate Family Member you can bring in a spouse or a child we want you know you can bring in but not your 2nd cousin not your on how about you and by the way i want you to give littles what about to bring in your inlaws if theyre if theyre you mean theyre really i mean that you want to run the 1st lady brought whatever home got here is an option migration just so everyone knows what the policy is because you can decide whether you like the policy or not we want to have more high skilled talented Young Workers come into this country who will benefit the United States now some people oh thats a racist policy a racist policy thats the policy germany thats the policy of australia thats the policy of canada why shouldnt we take in pretty sure. You have to internationalise lets take the immigrants who were going to make a contribution to trump and his policies on immigration can be quote compassionate while preserving our sovereignty i think thats true. If you look at the camps at the border is it compassionate to detain 1000 people in a room designed for 40 people where women you know i cant comment because i cant i dont know well like i dont know its leading to not include because of lack of sanitary products children left and i was at the border do office of Inspector General ive been in the border in texas and i cant speak for all the camps and so on but the ones that ive seen humane the people are working at the border they are they are doing everything they can to help those people and the idea that somehow somehow our Border Patrol people this is and also is of Inspector General says 88 i dont males held in a cell with a Maximum Capacity of 41 but i dont support that thats whats happening is that compassionate not we should stop doing that. Isnt the real reason that donald trump if we could agree. To get to the root of the reason but also you know the real reason we have to change our asylum policy because whats going to extend the refugees is what that is what Steven Miller 10 while i dont agree with steve miller and the by the way thats not the trump assertion ok the one who has a well founded fear of persecution should be able to come in as a rough minister from syria. Here is that well hes closer to the Syrian Refugees are compassionate but i am not a Foreign Policy expert on. This is the real reason donald trump is fighting this war on immigration is that hes a racist if when the president tells 4 women of color members of congress to quote go back to where they came from even though 4 of them all of them are u. S. Citizens and 3 of them were born in the u. S. Is that not racist i know donald trump ive spent a lot of time no that is not a race ok hes not a racist is that comment racist people can interpret it 1. We can you tell us about it is it a sense of why when you answer it because whats the problem you do have something wrong i dont think donald trump is racist i didnt ask those were some of the telling people to go back to where they came from is it racist to say yes or no question. I dont know im not going to and i wont do it so well one of the rallies this summer in North Carolina when you mention representative in the crowd chanted send her back send her back i dont seem to be ok with it i dont like that stuff if you want it you said you loved the people from rallies but you stood with them and trying to sound urban i would so and so i see why why because i think its not its not its not what i think thats what you get a lot of them its not real its not bringing us together why dont you like is it not because its racist heres one of the things about donald trump that certainly look im a big fan of Donald Trumps i made that clear but i will say this that what i wish he would do i wish he would bring us together more and be last divisive and ive told them that i think you know i think hes his performance has been spectacular with respect to getting jobs back and so on but hes got to be the president. Not races that youre. Probably divisive not racist is your preferred way he has 2 devices you should be to each would be the president of all the people hes got to work on that isnt the problem stephen that youre sitting here defending the president what many would argue are blatantly racist comments when you yourself had to withdraw your nomination for c. On the Federal Reserve earlier this year partly because of misfortune istic remarks you made you say you made 1020 years ago really and partly because the race is coming you made that cause a lot of problems you about the obamas just wrong years ago that cause a lot problems for you the comments you made about the homeless i mean i had 6 full time investigative reporters looking into things i wrote 25 years ago this was any years ago im talking about you know letters that are what 25 years ago im not talking about those yet im saying it was in the past year and im saying that whats what is so i think anyone who looks at the evidence of what happened believes that i was completely unfairly treated i mean they on c. You dont myself or you dont regret saying that the 1st thing donald trump does as president is kick a black family out of Public Housing it was a joke it was a joke it was funny about that it was a cartoon that was in the in the b. You found it funny it was basically it was a joke it was you know you know you dont apologize a record i shouldnt say that but it was a joke. Lets go to our Panel Tiffany the u. S. Has always had problems of racism up to do that we can say it started with donald trump how much worse in your view do you think its become on the donald trump or is it just a continuation where do you stand on the racism yeah its just a continuation i mean people like to say that it happened i saw a resurgence of this kind of rhetoric under barack obama as evidence as Stephen Morris comments i think instead of spitting in my face and trying to tell me its raining you and you need to acknowledge that you are right with the racist president when you talk about immigration and you talk about you know that his policies are not racist i think perhaps the only immigrant that donald trump may like is former model birth there who has a Fake College Degree and given that she came in this country because she had to find visa im curious if you are exam i can answer what was her special talent that she got this special treatment that she got that einstein very very. Good you asylum policy immigration policy when you see Donald TrumpsJustice Department go to court to prevent migrant kids in Detention Center from getting soap and toothbrushes is that something you would have defended in court on behalf of the d. O. J. That wasnt the substance of that particular law so i dont know what i was and i said yes you know you asked a different question which is trying to isolate that particular fact thats in your favor rather than looking at it i can assure you doing things to her shes going to do the favor its basic human rights and that the basic right thank you for that right right. Across the border by Human Trafficking and that is what the Donald Trump Administration is making sure been waiting very patiently receive accusation of like cherrypicking and fax election my grandmother had a phrase when you have a turd in the punchbowl you dont have punch anymore you got water with that term so you cant say that if something they miss is a part of the overall lawsuit we just a lot over that we just ignore that thats part of the thats part of the system of the of the stephen. The president Steven Miller immigration policy they are designing this program in order to cause pain and suffering to children and families ok border. You have to look at the entire scope of the lawsuit and to make sure that you understand and that particular point you know