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ALJAZ NEWSHOUR July 13, 2024

Represent i did my job im not saying you did it all im saying is you and your the instructions from a lot the lawyer was you shouldnt talk to anybody and you interpret that is dont talk to my boss but im going to go talk to someone that we cant even ask you who that individual is that is incorrect with i just read what you said that i shouldnt talk to any other people but im on has expired theres im sorry chairman but that sequence is not the way it played out ive been trying to turn around script kernal been better and please let. The sequence played out where immediately afterwards i expressed my concerns i did my coordination function mr eisenberg circle back around told me not to talk to anybody else in that current time i did not discuss that when it happened thats when youre talking sized mr head thats right thank you mr chairman colonel inman lets go back to. Their meetings on july 10th and bester boltons office and down in the ward room where you witnessed ambassador sanyal and inform the ukrainian officials d that as a proof to a white house meeting between the 2 president s quote ukrainians would have to deliver an investigation into the bidens in quote you said that ambassador saddam was quote calling for an investigation that didnt exist into the either or is not correct that is correct. Its that same afternoon you went to mr eisenberg the council correct that meeting occurred in the afternoon and within you know a couple im sure was it was within a couple hours i spoke to mr eisenberg how did he react. He was cool calm and collected he took notes and he said he would look into it and did he not also tell you to feel free to come back it did not additional concerns you did congressman ambassador siloed had told you that his request to the ukrainians had been coordinated with the chief of staff acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney your report out to mr eisenberg i did and what was his reaction. He took notes and he said he was going to hell follow up or look into it i dont recall exactly what he said colonel youve also testified that on the july 25th call now between the 2 president s quote there was no doubt in quote the President Trump asked for investigations into the 26th election and Vice President bidens son in return for a white house meeting within an hour of that call you reported that mr eisenberg did you not i did went back to him just to see its just it would be appropriate hes an assistant to the president it was less a suggestion more than more of an instruction did you tell the lawyers the President Trump asked president on ski to speak to mr giuliani yes and the lawyers it was at this point told you not to talk to anyone else that thats that is not correct with regard to timing they didnt follow by a. Circle back around what ended up happening is in my coordination role i spoke to start state i spoke to a member of the Intelligence Community and the general counsel from one of the of the intelligence bodies notified mr eisenberg that there was. Or that there was. Information on the call on the july 25th call at that point mr eisenberg told me i shouldnt talk to anybody else about it colonel i want to go back to 2014 in iraq when you were blown up i presume that given the point your military career and what else was going on in the world that upon recovery there was the very real prospect or possibility that you might once again find yourself in harms way is that correct yes sob congressman happened in 2004 by guess or excuse me thank you if you consider leaving the military service at that point no frankly congressman i suffered a light wounds i was fortunate compared to my counterparts in the same vehicle and i returned to duty. I think that i think it may have been that same day that you could have been subjected to additional harm you chose to continue service in uniform i continued to serve in combat for the remaining 10 or 11 months of the tour you know colonel i have to say i find it a rich but incredibly painful irony that within a week of the president contrary to all advice of the senior military officials he pardons those who were convicted of war crimes which was widely decried in the military Community Within the week of him doing that is engaged in an effort and allies on his behalf including some here today to demean your record of service in the sacrifice in the contribution you have made indeed sir less than 20 minutes ago the white house officially quoted out of out of context comments referred to earlier by mr morris and your judgment i can only conclude server. That what we thought was just the president as the subject of our deliberations on this inquiry isnt sufficient to capture whats happening here indeed what subject to this inquiry and what is a peril is our constitution in the very values upon which it is space i want to say thank you for your service but you dont thank you doesnt cut it please know however that it comes from the bottom of my heart and i know on the bottoms of the heart of countless other americans thank you for your service or are youll back soon jordan thank you mr chairman sunday sunday the speaker of the United States house of representatives called the president of the United States an imposter speaker of the house called the president an imposter guy 63000000 people voted for the guy who want an Electoral College landslide the speaker calls and imposture thats whats happened to our country to this Congress Speaker statement says it all the democrats have never accepted the will of the American People democrats dont trust the American People the American People want to send someone to this town who is willing to shake it up a bit they dont trust that and they have tried to do everything they can to undo what the American People decided on november 8th 2016 have been out to get the present since the day he was elected a whistle blowers lawyer the whistle blowers legal team said this january 30th 2017 president in office about a week who has started 1st of many steps next sentence impeachment will follow ultimately i guess were in the final step started. Started 3 and a half years ago congressman to leave start of this congress 1st day of Congress Said its the president representative green said if we dont impeach him the president got to win reelection we got to do it most importantly most importantly 5 Democrat Members of this committee voted to move forward with impeachment before the phone call ever happened the truth is tax actually started before before the inauguration even before the election the Ranking Member talked about this is Opening Statement july 26th team f. B. I. Opens investigation socalled trump russia coordination collusion which was never there open investigation spied on 2 american citizens associated with the president ial campaign my guess is thats probably never happened in American History but they did it and for 10 months jim comey the f. B. I. Investigated the president guess what after 10 months they had nothing and you know why we know that because we depose mr komi last congress he told us they didnt have a thing no matter how consul moeller gets appointed and they do a 2 year 40000000 dollar 19 lawyer on believable investigation and guess what they come back and they got nothing but the democrats dont care so now we get this. Depositions in the bunker in the basement of the capitol witnesses who are allowed to answer questions about who they talk to about the phone call we get this all based on some anonymous whistleblower you know firsthand knowledge biased against the president these facts of never change we learn these right away who work with Vice President biden who wrote a memo the day after somebody talked to him about the call waited 18 days to file a complaint in 18 days a fall a complaint what do you do in those 18 days we all know. Ran off the top with chairmanship staff and then i have hired a legal team and i just talked about and i just talked about one of the steps in the whole impeachment who asked his legal team has said this is scary what these guys are putting our country through it is it is it is sad it is scary it is wrong and the good news is the American People see through it all they know the facts are on and we are listening at the moment and watching this ongoing impeachment inquiry into us President Donald Trump the big 2 witnesses testifying now for some hours being left in the capital alexander then men whose director of European Affairs the National Security council when jennifer were doing this hes a Foreign Service i took Vice President paints now both of these people were on the telephone call that its a hot at the heart of this that was the telephone call in july between President Trump and president selenski of you crying both of use would such is unusual or improper and said that they were concerned about the political night at least this inquiry of course is continuing well go back to have ensued and frankly i think a lot of others do as well they see what this is this for what it is and they know this is wrong especially wrong just 11 months before the next election youll back mr welch thank you. What this hearing is about i think is best stated by colonel van mins Opening Statement the question before us is this is it improper for the president of the United States to demand a Foreign Government investigate the United States citizen and political. Very well stated. I just listen to mr jordan as you did as well and i heard his criticisms of the process nothing really happened a lot of people are out to get the president i didnt hear an answer to the question as to whether its proper for the president of the United States to demand a Foreign Government to investigate a u. S. Citizen and political opponent and to date i havent heard any one of my republican colleagues address that question colonel vinen ms williams thank you i want to ask some questions that go through the background whats come out during this process is that we had 2 ukraine policies one was bipartisan and longstanding and that was to assist ukraine which had freedoms to free to solve from the domination of russia to fight corruption and to resist russian aggression is that a fair statement earlier than i think thats a fair characterization or from end to give folks a reminder of the extent of correct corruption by the way a legacy of putins russia russia is it your understanding that when their prior. President mr iana kovac fled to russia into the arms of mr putin he took with him 30. 00 to 40000000000. 00 of that impoverished country those there are different estimates but its on that scale yes vast scale for a poor country and is it your understanding that how our lists but motivated ukrainians rose up in protest to this incredible graft and theft and abuse by their president that is correct and that was. In the may den it was called the may den revolution the revolution of dignity correct correct and young people went into that square in downtown caved in demonstrated for months correct correct and a 100 died 106 young people died in older people died correct that was and in and in between february 18 2014 in february 2002 is that correct correct 106 died including people who were shot by snipers kids and yana code which had put snipers on the rooftops of buildings to shoot into that square in kill murder slaughter those young people is that your understanding is correct in our bipartisan support by the way i want to say to my republican colleagues a lot of leadership to have this bipartisan support came from your side thank you but our whole commitment was to get rid of corruption and to stop that russian aggression is that correct. That amounts to some of the key pillars thats right and the giuliani soundman in appears trump policy was not about that it was about investigations into a political opponent correct ill take that question back we knowing and you know ill say this to President Trump you want to investigate joe biden you out of investigate 100 biden go at it do it do it hard do it dirty do it the way you do do it. Just dont do it by asking a foreign leader to help you in your campaign thats your job its not his my goal in these hearings is 2 things one is to get an answer to colonel vin mans question in the 2nd coming out of this is for us as a congress to return to the ukraine policy that nancy pelosi and Kevin Mccarthy both support its not investigations its the restoration of democracy in ukraine and the resistance of russian aggression i yield back mr maloney. Thank you both for being here. You know Lieutenant Colonel women this may be one of your 1st congressional hearings like this so. You may not under arrest i. Cant blame you for feeling that way sir. Particularly when ive been sitting here listening to my republican colleagues you know one of the advantages of being down here at the kids table get to hear the folks above you. Ask their questions and ive been listening closely to my republican colleagues and ive heard them say just about everything except to contradict any of the substantive testimony youve both given you may have noticed theres been a lot of complaints and theres been a lot of insinuations theres been a lot of suggestions maybe that. Your service is somehow not not to be trusted you know you were treated to questions about your loyalty because of some half baked job offer i guess ukrainians made you of course beautifully reported i guess theres a casters implying maybe youre youve got some dual loyalty which is of course an old smear weve heard many times in our history they try to demean you as though maybe your youve overstated your importance of your job of course youre this guy on the National Security council responsible for directing ukrainian policy weve heard them air out some allegations with no basis improve but they just want to get them out there and hope maybe some of those strands of spaghetti i guess will stick on the wall they keep throwing them we even had a member of this committee question this is my favorite question why you would wear your dress uniform today even though that dress uniform includes a badge a brass plate that has a combat infantry badge on it and a purple heart medal ribbon seems like anybody gets to wear that uniform somebody whos got breast plate with those combinations on it so lets do it again lets do the substance can we do that because weve had a lot of a lot of dust kicked up this williams you heard the call with your own ears right. Not 2nd hand not hearsay you heard the president speak you heard his voice on the call correct and your conclusion was what he said about investigating the binds was your words unusual and inappropriate i believe that might be my right as my testimony and mr vandeman you were treated to a july 10th meeting in the white house where you heard ambassador saw online raise investigations conditioning a white house meeting on that investigations that you thought were unduly political i believe thats how you described them and you went to n. S. C. Counsel and you reported it right correct and then later you 2 were on the white house call my right you heard it with your own ears correct not secondhand not from somebody else not hearsay right correct you heard the president s voice on the call i did and you heard him raise that subject again that ambassador song and had raised before about investigating the bidens right i did and i want to ask you when you heard him say that what was the 1st thought that went through your mind frankly i couldnt believe what i was hearing it was probably an element of shock. Maybe in certain regards my worst fear about how are you current policy could play out. Was playing out how this is likely to have significant implications for d us in our security and you want immediately in your ported didnt you i did why because that was my duty you still have your Opening Statement handy i do read the last paragraph for me again the other one the very last one the 2nd the last one if you read that one again for me 7 the American Public deserves to hear it again. The story start at the one i think my dad would appreciate this one too. Bad my sitting here today in the u. S. Capitol and talking to our elected officials is proof that you made the right decision 40 years ago to leave the soviet union and come here if you didnt need States America in search of a better life for our family do not worry ill be fine for telling the truth. You realize when you came forward out of sense of duty that you were putting yourself in direct opposition to the most powerful person in the world do you realize that sir i knew i was assuming a lot of risk and im shocked by that word dont war that phrase do not warry you dressed your dad was your dad a warrior. He did serve it was a different alter ego and it would have worried if you were putting yourself up against the president and states is that right he deeply worried about it because in his context there was there was the ultimate risk and why do you have confidence that you can do that and tell your dad not to worry because this is america this is the country ive served and defended that all of my brothers have served and here right it matters thank you sir gilbert thank mr mix. Thank you mr chairman 1st of all this williams let me thank you for your service to our nation it it truly matters Lieutenant Colonel then. I had the honor of speaking to a group of veterans this past weekend and what i said to them was that no words no w

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