Possessing and smuggling foreign currency so just searching his home after he was deposed and found suitcases containing around 130000000. 00 but you said much of the money was a gift from the Saudi Crown Prince muhammad bin son man. During months of protests demanding the end of his think 2 years in power demonstrators also called for justice and accountability for what they say is the sheerest many crimes many think the brady. Bill. The legal system has not changed what about the protesters who have been killed in demonstrations against him for years what about those who have been sentenced to death and to prison for lesser crimes in contrast hundreds showed their support for the former president and hes now dismantled party. Supporters chanted against the 4 month old Transitional Government accusing leaders of failing to be inclusive and leading the country into what the view as chaos that is verdict isnt the end of former president bashir is legal problems while in prison he was charged with inciting and participating in the killing of protesters during the uprising against his government which started a year ago and just days before the verdict he was charged over his role in the 1989 coup that brought him to power all thats happening while many continue to call for accountability for other crimes they feel hold greater importance. Fled from the Western Region of darfur 15 years ago and came to the capital. Hes one of more than 2000000 displaced in the war that the u. N. Says killed 300000 sudanese and which the International Criminal courts categorizes as genocide. But gave old school to killings for the rapes in darfur and displacement i have witnessed villages being burned women being raped by militia men with my own eyes where is the justice for all dot many here see they waited too long to see justice served they also see that the fact bashir has been home gives them hope that it wont be too long before his help to account for his other alleged crimes he will morgan on to 0. And us have issued travel warnings for northeast india as protests continue against a new citizenship law anger over the controversial law has brought thousands of people onto the streets across india it gives minorities from nearby countries a fast track to indian citizenship but does not include muslims their growing fears International Efforts to fight Climate Change are faltering is the annual u. N. Climate conference drags on without any agreement a cop 25. 00 talks in madrid were supposed to end on friday the negotiations are still ongoing with delegates working into sunday morning theyre deadlocked over admissions targets and how much poorer countries should receive to cope with Climate Change rallies government has launched a National Debate aimed at finding a solution to the increase in violence by armed groups and this a hell region across the border and the share an emergency summit is planned for sunday. Heavy fighting has been raging around libyas capital over the past 24 hours or more clear the forces are battling among armed battling armed groups allied with the internationally recognized government which is based in the capital on thursday are called on his forces to advance towards the center of tripoli and what he called a final battle for the fiercely contested city so the headlines keep it here studio b. Unscripted as that next. By always look to him as the fall guy face all but the crying empire i think when we make the decision to stand up for ourselves the powers that be a reality we have a deep state but do whatever they want to do ever they want whenever they want. I put a hash tag on 3 words black lives matter for about they called me a terrorist. My name is patrice colors i am an artist and activist a woman of the. Time. I use music to denounce the structures that oppress us to question to mobilize to empower the right speak up so i go by the name of low key iraqi british people on the problem is that they feed these. People 6 is somebody more black people have done we are part of a Liberation Movement across continents and chairs histories and oppression we have to take care of each other if we want to change things rosa angela and now patrice bringing the struggle to the 21st century i got the chance to sit down and talk with her its great to be here in studio b. Im scripted our stories may be different but theres always Common Ground theres going to go faster. Thank. You for us its really amazing to be here with you i have to say that i was really touched in a visceral way by your book you know because of your activism and because of your collectivizing were post into this very precarious and dangerous space of being defined by some as a terrorist how did it feel when you were watching bill oreilly on the news essentially mobilizing millions of people within the same country as you to start to view you as potentially a target or very serious stay in Political Violence by describing you as a terrorist. Like a lot. Like a lot you know i think as someone who has studied the civil rights movements of the United States whos studied the history and the evolution of struggles both in the u. S. And outside the u. S. I had heard and learned about. State repression learned about how the media is used against black Power Movement so how cointelpro the Counter Intelligence agency developed entire operation to try to take down the black Power Movement i didnt know i was going to be living through it that it know that when we declared that black eyes matter that there was then going to be a state wide apparatus that was going to go after earth even though intellectually i had studied it you dont know a thing until you live it and to experience it and to you. Turn on your television or someone text you and says hey bill or he is has your name on a screen and is calling you an american and a terrorist and dangerous to really white people thats who he was talking to the base he was mobilizing on the one hand made me scared scared for my safety but they messed with the wrong person the mess of the wrong family. Im im competitive. Bill or i was going to go after me call were just going to but were going to make this bigger and stronger and were going to learn from history and so we called the elders who have gone through this you know angela davis being someone who was. By the f. B. I. Who was hunted and eventually went on trial and won and asked her what do you do in these moments when your government is going after you what do you do how do you respond and not just from like a campaign why is because we have to build a campaign to protect us but also how do you protect your sanity you know when we 1st started we didnt have a lot of tools to protect us we didnt realize we had to do a lot of Cyber Security and many of us were going to events by ourselves you know we werent we were just out here you know fighting and realized rather quickly what kind of threat we were and i think that is something that is very specific to being a person of color you know to be black and the state of particular but i think its also really specific to being someone whos decided that youre going to fight that youre going to challenge the norm when we make the decision to stand up for ourselves that really the powers that be they react and i think for me you know when when they told me that we were going to. Conversation i was like ok when you learn everything about this human being and what youve talked about so much is this place and challenging this place and so im curious to hear from you at what moment did you decide like im going to challenge the norms here im not going to show up the way they want me to i think for me it was understanding the sea and how large the stakes actually were you have to understand in 2003 you had the largest single taney as mobilization of human beings around the world in recorded Human History against the iraq war were talking about some estimations have it at 30000000 people worldwide now an inevitable consequence of taking that kind of action against the will of so many people was the death of Civil Liberties and to a certain extent so where i think commonalities do exist are you know for example ive been stopped on the schedule 7 terrorism act its not particularly that rare when you think that around half a 1000000 people in this country have been stopped under it 84 percent of are of quote unquote ethnic minorities despite the fact that they are only 13 percent of this country the schedule 7 terrorism act allows police to stop someone hold them for up to 9 hours they are legally obliged to answer every single question asked of them they have no right to publicly funded legal advice during that process so for me this process of politicization was the beginning to affect my life and me turning into somebody who was going to directly challenge it was a process of linking them together it was thinking ok why was i called this name in the street in this situation. Is it linked to this and it was combining those things. But then also looking at the traumas that affected me in my childhood and others that i knew and one of the interesting things about trauma is that a affects the regulation of fear and anxiety and so one directly identifying now are forces or violence but its a violence that can often move in invisible way and so it was trying to see it was trying to make the invisible visible you know lets face the fact that we live in security talk received that we have a deep state and Intelligence Service that do whatever they want to whoever they want whenever they want they detain people indefinitely without charge and to people that are racialized as muslims within this society its almost as if their behavior and their activity has become algorithm. But when we actually look at the fact of the matter if we look at e. U. Research that was carried out between 20062014 the percentage of terrorism carried out across the e. U. That was the responsibility of people claiming to be muslims was not point 7 percent so in terms of data this bears no relation to the way that. Certain communities are targeted for certain reasons and i was reminded by your book the point where you are arrested aged 12 in class now this reminded me of the prevent program in this country which is a Program Within the Public Sector which looks understanding vulnerability to radicalization and often among children you have children as young as 3 that can be taken out of their classroom at their nursery and questioned by police without the presence of their parents so you know i just wanted to ask you how is it that that close mats are what able to universalize. Your message in the way that you have and connect with so many people around the globe you know if it was supposedly an issue that was just affecting people racialism back in the United States from a very beginning we knew black lives matter was not just about people United States black people United States in particular we have a deep commitment to global struggle and we have a deep commitment to the global black family and so theres a reason why it was black lies matter in our africanamerican lives matter theres a reason why the minute we launched black lies matter we called for folks across the globe we wanted people to talk about their stories in south africa we want to folks attack other stories here in the u. K. And canada and theres a reason why i think theyre resonant of black lives matter was felt across the globe so quickly because it was clear that the issues that we were talking about and that we were experiencing and that we were expressing were not isolated they were not just about us and that there was a ceci to challenge the history of of black struggle and the history of the black Power Movement you know i think i was thinking when youre talking about this word terrorist and what they really mean when they call us terrorists the u. S. Government label black resistors black organizers black Freedom Fighters as terrorists it was really important to understand that and to understand that that was being weaponized against us but also in that term theres a solidarity that happens because you start to look around see who else are they calling terrorists and then you start to think about well what what is what is terror because actually growing up in. Environment where the police are blasting down your doors where you are unable to walk without being harassed where most of your family by the time youre 13 years old are in some sort of prison or have been arrested or have been harmed by the state thats terror thats what terror is and you you talked about earlier that the idea of trauma and as an organizer is that activists we have big words and big thoughts and big ideas. And graces to sticks but we dont often talk about how does this thing then impact our real life i think its an interesting question and one of the things in your book that really resonated with me in a heavy heavy way was your description of your brother monty as somebody who was suffering from a Mental Illness the view of him was so course from the supposedly benign institutions they were scrambling to convert him into an economic unit. At the expense of his mental how. Situations where rather than having handcuffs thrown on his wrist they should have had on put around a shoulder. Rather than being. Thrown into a cell he should have been given a hug this is the reality of the situation you know i compared it to the actions of my brother who was undiagnosed but we sure suffered from serious Mental Illness and took his own life at the age of 23 so i felt when reading your account of monty. And also amazingly your dilemma is that you were in i felt exactly the same in terms of the dilemma as in terms of do you submit this person you know there was a point when my brother. The Police Wanted to section him you know and the police do not have any training of how to deal with people with psychotic episodes and what not and you actually see often in these situations people dying in the hands of the police there is an extent to which if this person was viewed as a human being this would just not be happening this would not be playing out and so with the situation with my brother the preference was not allow him to be sectioned but you know hes not with us today and with suicide what it always does is it leaves within this surviving loved ones a sense of haunted g. And haunted being trapped in the moment yes of the thing that you wish never happened but for me one of the things that James Baldwin said had always connected to me in a deep way he said that your pain is trivial except in so far as you are able to use it to connect to the pain of others and through doing that you are able to release yourself from that pain and in a sense its what im attempting to do through the music you know using music in some instances where really traumatic things have happened its taken the making of a song about that incident to kind of commonly and soothe me in that way would you say that the writing of your book was actually kind of cathartic in a way. Yeah the absolutely was just me or brother rest in peace. It was devastating and cathartic. I had the you know i am a big Firm Believer of therapy and healing justice and so i have done a lot of my own work around the trauma experience as a child in my home and by Law Enforcement but to write it and relive it i didnt realize how much still was lodged in me i had compared you know what my brother had gone through to what i had gone through i feel like we do this a lot of people who grow up and Serious Violence called survivors guilt where you dont acknowledge what youd experience because it was maybe less harsh that what someone else experienced and i think for especially women because we often become the caretakers we often become the people who are Holding Space for the people whove been traumatized by the state while were also being traumatized state we dont take the time to grieve our experiences and the book you know for so long the corrupt conversation around mass incarceration and the president just are a complex and say the u. S. Has really been through the framework of really assists mel lens and it was one of the 1st times as someone who had not been in a cage for a long amount of time talking about what it meant to have to take care of and be basically the social service that didnt exist for my family and the type of pressure that takes for a young person and so i think you know. The. Book writing process was one process and then i had to record it. And do an audio book but that process it felt like i wrote it and then i read it out loud and then i was like are right i can move on to the next chapter of my life and that is something that we dont often talk about around trauma like you said that we actually get stuck in a place and so how do we transform that place and i think as were thinking about these systems these large systems that are often the agents of an acting the trauma nurse it actually serves them for us to be stuck are healing really is another way of challenging those systems and i think it should be part of what we do. So i think were going to take it out for some questions better is my question is really for you ive been reading the book lately called why im no longer talking to nigerians about race and the theme of the book is something that i could really identify with because he was examining that issue that sometimes we as africans who come over to the west find it difficult to identify with either black british people africanamericans about the issues or is it because you had to get over yourself just get on with it so what i want to ask is hard do we break down that lack of empathy because i think were stronger together than we are so how do we make that happen. What weve been doing and black eyes matter is having those kinds of convers