I know im adrian forgive this is counting the cost on aljazeera a weekly look at the world of business i think of this week a special program for you from the doha forum here in castro well discuss the future of investments in the markets since the 1990 s. Globalization has given the impression that a voting markets were and could couldnt with developed nations the brics and next 11 became the latest investment craze hundreds of millions were lifted out of poverty and millions more climb the social escalator into the middle class pockets something has gone wrong the end of the commodity supercycle and easy money came along before populism and the threat to globalization but it could be argued that most emerging Market Growth has been attributable to china and india. So lets dissect what countries really want from globalization and more importantly Foreign Direct Investment our panel here at the heart forum is at the cutting edge of policy making joining me and im sure gets out as executive director of the International Trade center what the chief executive of helps of what other alley our laid out party is the chief executive of the Investment Promotion Agency here in qatar and i was lehmann is the regional director for the g. C. C. At the world bank welcome to you all thank you for joining us today. I want to start with what could only be described as a threat to globalization this trade war between the United States and china president s president trumps threats to our plan the postwar liberal order including attacks on allies and institutions like the World Trade OrganizationForeign Direct Investment into emerging markets as a whole fell last year to its lowest level since the 1990 s. According to the International Institute rather for International Finance and that populist call from trump for companies to repatriate money and reassure production back to the u. S. Appears to have resonated i want to get your thoughts in particular on that but ali lets start with you we can you had a up an agency thats thats looking for investors. What sort of investors are you looking for and why i think i mean the general trends in terms of protectionism populism. And its always been negatively correlated towards investment and trade investment it is a very closely interlinked any destruction in the Global Trading or doing in the rules based multilateral system would lead to a negative impact towards f. D. A. Inflows and we are seeing this now especially with regards to emerging economies now what this has led us to kind of rework or rethink is what are really really. Be looking for in terms of attracting f. D. A. What kind of f. D. A. Should we be aiming for and this is the question i think that has some clarity on the tree looking for quantities in terms of really looking for quality f. B. I. And by quality i would mean transfer of knowledge and looking for skills talent and i think i have a lot to offer in terms of its own Value Proposition and i think many developing countries especially some at this stage of the cycle are reworking this question and rethinking it and trying to find how investment could play a role in terms of leave it in poverty and achieving Sustainable Development thank you. Theres no doubt that the middle east peace lessen its dependence upon hydrocarbons. And its pretty easy to say that but how on earth do you go about it would you advise me for a system to float catalog us. Thank you very and thank you for a very simple and easy question actually. But let me let me say a little bit few things you know you put a big picture out there of what has been happening in the world in terms of f. B. I. And through i mean the f. B. I. Has been going down over the last few years and its almost half what it used to be 4 years ago but the g. C. C. In general has but the strain actually the g. C. C. F. B. I. Has been going up especially in 4 countries out of the 6 country in the g. C. C. And one thing that qatar is doing and also the rest of the g. C. C. Is doing is that they are working on the essential which are like how to get their investment in and how to transform their economies and if you look at their vision and Transformation Plan or Development Plan most all of them actually have the diversification as the main driver of where they want to head into the future so while the hydrocarbon has provided a lot of growth in the future they all know basically that this is not where they need to go from here on and a lot of things are being done and theres a shift as has mentioned opening up the economy and bringing investor but investors and not the traditional way not and into the hydrocarbon but investors that can really help them develop that economy well that is Foreign Direct Investment because 2 i really want an amazon in the middle east or do or anybody in my market for that matter. Do they not have a tendency to crowd out local startups for a tech company like ours where you see hyper growth when you talk about investments either making investments or taking a business you look certain things which are mainly not just capital its much more how do you get more from these synergies that you might also add on top if there is a. Market you are considering also you look for if there is a talent pool or if there is a Regulatory Framework that can help you and encourage for innovation so those things are very crucial to be found we look for taking or making investments and 4 hours for our case in this case we are really like the leading ecommerce platform in the region but we are you know when i go global i feel like i want to ask you the same question but from a different angle ok so i get a cheaper right with with goober but but the drivers are a poor forest. I mean there is no driver anywhere in the world that would say that making more money than making a Better Living working for ruger has. You know at the back of your question is whats happening with Foreign Direct Investment and im afraid that we are for the long term were going to see a continuous decline in 4 in the reg investment because there are 5 structural factors that are pushing it downward 1st this truck drove factor is geo political tensions this is not going to be resolved anytime soon this is a long term issue that chills flooring direct investment number 2 the Digital Economy that is changing the Way Companies are deciding where to locate that has a big impact on how were going to be taxing need regulating it again chilling factor on Foreign Direct Investment number 3 the fact that the recent no system of Global Governance for investment getting freck minted countries are doing this at the national other regional level best. Number 4 the fact that there is more and more security screening of investments and this is a general trend 2. 00 and 5. 00 and final one their fact that we are much more looking into responsible business conduct that again is leading to probably less investment but maybe its leading to what i really was mentioning is an important fact of. Looking more at the quality of the investment and this is where i want to think with the question youre asking maybe its not all that bad that Foreign Direct Investment is on a downward trend if the investment that is coming were looking more at the quality of these investment and if we start to leverage more domestic investment which also many countries are sitting on but they are not leveraging enough. Shake out he did what incentives a un able to offer companies coming to set up shop here are you concerned that ultimately youre going to create jobs but the profits are going to leave the country. You surely want to create a circular economy that benefits the nation better. Well i mean let me take kind of step back because we were talking a bit about the commodities supercycle and i think this is one of the structural issues that got us facing since you know we see nonoy in gas g. D. P. Growth far. Accelerating far more much more than oil and gas g. D. P. Growth but we see then for inverse in terms of if the inflows were if theyre even inflows are the majority of which is in the oil and gas sector and the minority is in the northern gaza and how do you how could we fix this and see how do we use incentives to kind of reinvigorate the annoying. Thing the government over the past 2 years has embarked on a Liberalization Program we had number 12019 liberalizing all sectors 200 percent Foreign Investment we had the Free Zones Authority stablished allows 100 percent for investment and tax holiday of up to 25 years. And other platforms such as lot of Financial Center die pay has been recently established as well to help coordinate and promote other investment destination and i think i mean generally the main drive has been in this direction and really think that all these initiatives. In addition to incentives could provide look at the of Value Proposition and more specifically in terms of attracting high Skilled Labor attracting talent and not only attracting them but wreaking them and this is the tricky question i think that most countries especially developing countries are looking to answer i know companies are on. Social not for profit organizations is it not rather unedifying when you have emerging nations competing for the same dollars for growth. Is the single most important source of financing for development. Around the world so theres nothing bigger than that i mean even when you combine all the flaws of developing funding that goes into it doesnt it doesnt pay does ok so it is important now doesnt mean that it was all whats going on in the world today that theres going to be a trend Going Forward its very hard to predict because there is a disruption taking place today. On a lot of different fronts and i russia has mentioned sure them but im going to go a little bit to the other side which is what murat alluded to i mean the Digital Economy and you know whats happening in Artificial Intelligence whats happening in internet of things whats happening basically in the 5 g. And Internet Connectivity that this is going to be providing is going to be basically developing a new type of services and industries and training and type of. Of workforce that we might not have seen over the last 34 decades so what we learn when the world bank introduced its report on the future of jobs it was very clear that the future of jobs might be very different of what has happened over the last 2 sleep decades and what will differentiate countries is not basically if they only can do like the ease of business and the reduced barrier and so on but it has to do was cost it has to do with what type of Value Proposition this country is going to be providing and we are going to see differentiation between those who are going to see countries that will be able to adapt and move and prepare their use and prepare their workforce basically wolf 2 for whats happening in the future i dont try to join to come back and so youre nodding vigorously that yes i make the game the old game was basically incentives to attract investment which have a basically and you know sometimes with incentives that were not clear whether the deal was about clearing somebody because. The incentive will because it had a good Value Proposition whereas the future looks very different the future looks scales and eco systems and the investor will not need an incentive if you have a good Value Proposition to offer in the form of a serious psychosis and. I very much agree with the money the Human Capital so the game is changing so what i think whats important to understand is that its not enough to look at way that if their figures are telling us that investment is going down its important to back whats behind this which is in my view the game we should be embarking on which is qualities of the investment rather than just simply looking at the quantities of the investment. You want to comment on that yeah i said i pretty much agree on the Human Capital idea because you know what if you just go back internet has been around for 30 years and half of the global population is below 30 years old so if you just make a quick math you can see half of the global population actually was born to internet world so when we see the future but should definitely keep in mind the future economy will be shaped by you know Asian Technology and entrepreneurship so i certainly believe that the Human Capital is a shield the core of the future growth and then we hear also mentioned that all these upcoming technologies we are going to redefine the Business Model and economic model as well so i think for us to consider investments or very going to look at our companies in the preacher be different theyre going to focus number one on the Human Capital can be attract l. And can retain talent like you said and also can be also develop future ideas from this community because thats the crucial part of the sustainable growth. Shaykh i want to move on to infrastructure now when when money is no object. The last 25 years for instance of transforms this Country Council i know its not quite money money the object dont get me wrong but but when money is particularly tight. Emerging markets with were talking of here where do they time how do they transform the societies in the with cattle. South to south the investment and trade within emerging economies that that could mean help achieve some of the goals that Company Countries which might not have the same resources that probably have up our benefits from. India could gain a lot from it now i think the question is. The real issue and there are kind of touched on this as with regards to centers liberalizing and its always a moving baseline. And this could easily lead to kind of a slippery slope like race to the bottom which is what i think all of us are try to avoid so we need to really look at what industries are fragile what needs to be protected and what really needs to be grown and in a Sustainable Way that i think that is the main way that emerging economies and developing countries could could seek to achieve their their goals. Surely mention south to south westerly here is that is that the big winner would would you would you put yourself in that bracket i think differently emerging in the developing markets they dont collaborate because i think. The simple idea actually is can you create one plus 15 or 10 or 100 thats the new technology so when we look at all these opportunities what we look are actually used do we have capabilities in synergies then we combine those together and create a value that is going to be actually unique Value Proposition for a sustainable time thats what were looking for so its a should it could be from an emerging market emerging market it could be from a top market i think the core idea is to create this uni. Value proposition so thats what were looking in case of ecommerce i think you like very tangible examples like what were looking for now ecommerce issues across borders theres no boundaries right so we can sell the goods in digital and physical goods across the border so what were looking now is in order to make this global and access to billions of people around the world you need to focus on Logistics OperationsData Technology in the in that so all those things actually turn come from anywhere so its not it doesnt make actually right its not shouldnt limit ourselves just looking at certain age joke refuse or markers we should think broader because we should we can see so many seniors use in is from so many different geographies all these capabilities coming together you can create a global Success Story thats what i believe that. Is the often heard complaint is we need to build a road from from this portrait to the city the World Bank Says it cant help i was really surprised that the emerging nations turn to china for help well no because basically theres no surprise its not only china whos had being in the developing world qatar here is another example i mean they mirror this morning said how much basically qatar a small nation is putting in developing the g. C. C. In general also and some other countries around the world also so china like england like a lot of other type of of countries who are interested in development they are putting this but let me just go one step back and say a couple of things you know i mean can economy transform itself yes. And im going to im going to go was a humble example of course there you go costa rica biskit transformed itself was not any resources like what the g. C. C. Has they used to export bananas mainly ok now they export chips and medical equipment and this was in a very short period of time relatively speaking in any beautiful nation and how they did it basically they did it be by getting what i just mentioned before so a good strategy for investment at acting intel 1st to be to be due to be able to g