I mean ok and you know in the stream today in a mass protest stop the countrys controversial new citizenship law we will take a look at the debate surrounding the citizenship Amendment Act you can be part of the conversation as well were on twitter at 8 a stream and streaming live on. Ringback i am an actor writer and activist but most importantly a human voice and you are in the street. Protests across india are continuing their fight against a new citizenship law that excludes muslim immigrants stoking fear of break to add teen was and discrimination in the country the citizenship past parliament in december and grants no muslim immigrants from pakistan afghanistan and bangladesh a quick apostle a toward citizenship because a lot better if its only people certain religions protesters say it goes against india secular constitution. We are protesting because this law divides the country on the basis of religion the tradition of our country has been unity in diversity india is not just a hindu nation india is made up of different communities. Over the weekend hundreds of thousands marched in hyderabad and in other cities across india one protest was met with clashes that injured up to 30 students at a Prominent University in new delhi so what kind of impact will Massive Public outcry have if any with us to talk about this in new delhi i should read out a protester a student at Indias NationalIslamic University in hyderabad a sad day in a way see a member of Indias Parliament and in Miami Florida kartikeya tanner a lawyer after it all commentators good to see you everybody i want to start with a little flavor of what its like to be online theres so much support in terms of social media going against various different perspectives on the citizen Amendment Act and give you a little flavor here grandma protesting the hash tag c a a underscore n r c protests let me just give you a little bit of grandma in the streets here. Just to be clear this protest is against this is an Amendment Act i mean if you love a little sample here this hashtag see a protest a 15 year old janay destroyed 9 vehicles during these protests is motherboard he has been served notice to recover damages and she has no money or property and im not sure about this bit about how she is going to raise the money but we move on we give you one more example and this is poetry for the people again against a citizen a member an act. The audience or absent of obviously rapid attention here enjoying the poetry alloca and this is not unusual poetry in the streets people protesting and they are doing so with great fervor when you see this against a citizen a member that has already happened its already illegal what is your reaction how do you explain this to the world this is not just isolated bits of social media that im showing people in india a genuinely concerned about this or not. I think. The issue with the protest is that im sorry to say it results from a misunderstanding of the law and im also sorry to say that not a lot of people who started the protest actually have read the law the law is being touted as anti muslim but let lets look at the law lets look at the situation as it were if these laws were and if this law wasnt passed whats the right of a muslim non indian who has an immigrant in india if hes a legal immigrant he can stay under the rules of his visa if hes an Illegal Immigrants and its divided into 2 sections one is. Someone who is fleeing persecution on any grounds likely city religion etc that person under the d government policy can continue to get whats called a long term visa which is a refugee policy of the government of india and thats illegal immigrant who is just an economic migrant who is coming to india for such a better life would obviously is liable to be deported theres no refugee policy for him theres no policy that protects him what does the citizenship Amendment Act do does it render this muslim non indian that i know i want to go i want to be friend mr consequence again you have been stopping by telling that the people who was there dressing in the space x. Men i made up the ass of north of it off the base ill shout im not being a postgraduate student i have got the same ill tell you ive got to be one of the students or was that india i have seen and i have went to the people i have thought the people all over the indian are 6 probably want to have me there and then i then understand everything regarding the city here all of the stages being its not big and how to say the signings what in what fields and thats why i dont worry about india everyone including everyone else can only and i live for understand there being the odd little mark all read also but its not the whole big ideology which the be the Big Government companies will say from the information or wealth they are signing one thing the flock stayed they went back for the. I did indeed on the basis that really the president of the people all over the screen but again i dont want to argue when youre a leader you might not be in circles so get the nod but i dont care if i and i shall hold tight for one moment so im just going to catch everybody up as i mean the outside of india so they really do appreciate why this is such a fierce debate so as to kay was explaining this is an Immigration Law it impacts foreign refugees from neighboring countries it particularly impacts people of different names the faves but nobody included in those faves where they form refugees can get accelerated immigration status none of them are muslim it doesnt name any muslims which is why im sure saying this is a summer phobic i should as you were speaking care come back in just a moment as you were speaking we were seeing huge protests from just this weekend in hyderabad why are people out on the streets in such numbers i see you go ahead. People had clearly been there and they were clearly and the audience what does the actors all about i have to say there see it it should not be analyzed it cannot be understanding alone it could be connected with and i think it could be connected with n. P. R. Then or maybe and say but in great bargain that one of the intensity in the its not its not my poor big genocide thats going to happen in india the people who have understand that people have got everything for them people have yet and i live over that that is why the people are coming in but not because they are coming in the street in their boss number this is that they can freedom fired back happening in india this is what our existence that this might be with her or the way that you know especially in the university if you have seen that how good believe the quality of attacking the b. Student in the university how the police have been as bad the people in their people in you would be you that what the british people are really they have a bad if you send me in the jane you know im a good listening and i was the day mike they are clearly not getting the people who are geared who are clearly norn and a lot of the barbers the are targeting the people who are educating people over the sea is against the sea it so here i mean in the artwork theyre happening in the up at Structural Racism which ease why should i shy again im going to ask you just to slow down just a little bit so everybody can hear what youre saying and understand what youre saying because you have been involved in these protests since the beginning of the south go ahead go ahead yes the only question i want to show is that this law citizenship amendment is really the goal of the government was to make this a hindu state or a new nation as if shes alleging why would christians why would parsis which is a restaurant you know originating from iran several years or several hundreds of years ago why would they be included in the law and the reason is that this law is about religious persecution that minorities suffer in 3 may bring countries and let me tell you very specifically all constitutions of the. These 3 countries specify islam to be the state religion now how can you potentially argue that worst limbs you know the country iran iraq and iraq and i refuse to protect and i just cannot be permitted to have a lot. Of heat or something i are refugees and theyre fleeing religious persecution like hotcakes isolation back and saying its no islam a. Feeling out join us join us a 2nd i had. No with mr carter good or did it deliberately misleading your viewers it was a lift the basic structure of the india because tuition and no government whether its movie government id dominic and widely the basic structure of the constitution. Please understand that and National Resource it is an issue if i dont know the state of our. Industry up i sob and 1900000 people lives that explored it is that he did finance minister abbas who says he only said that the 500000 are bengali tindalls bin to be given citizenship india citizenship and us citizen i dont act the 500000 muslims bengali muslims who have been excluded. But a lot of dissidents shared this in itself and just could make 3 such as these artists after the fall of the 2nd set of the sadness that led them to say i raise and lower as i can list the sights im not saying im not included in the cinematic act that is that is the problem the people who are protesting let me just telling him has it all because no no no no no no thats not the problem no no no no no no no please the problem of it the problem is you dont government has why noted the constitution of india you cannot make laws on the basis of religion law have to get it yes yes you can the constitution of the i. P. L. Let me put it across europe india talks about that acting social wrongs in article 15 and 16 differentiate between laws what could a little thing be out and you cannot make basis look at it at the base of religion that i did like we say that you are changing the parameters on the day i was if you just kind of treat this country cannot become pakistan this country would not become bangladesh this country would definitely not become about this time and as an indian design i dont care about whats happening in pakistan bangladesh are in abundance not because understand that you cannot why did my constitution you cannot take away it you cannot make laws of the basis of religion because the end result would be this country would become a chaotic country so yes i think. If i would i want to bring in some other voices. Aside if i may i want to bring in some other voices into this conversation this could be a legal or policy conversation but it goes beyond this because people are being killed people being beaten and there is violence amongst the protesters i want you to have a listen to serapion arayan can laugh and shes a senior lecturer at the university of cambridge from her perspective this is what the protests are about have a listen have a look at the low presence of self as a refugee no but it is not the law in fact introduces a stratified notion of citizenship in which privileges of religion and in need of class determine political but the law in this sense runs contrary to the commitments to equality and nondiscrimination that are provided in the Indian Constitution it is contrary to preamble of values of a secular and socialist republic and it is also what noting in the past few days as protesters have tried to invoke these Constitutional Values they have been met with very high intensity high scale violence from the state which is particularly targeted at muslim areas and universities. So im also just looking here at what the j. P. S. Is saying hand theyre talking about spread facts not myth you can have a look here on my laptop and they are talking about people just just not understanding the citizen. Amendments act and theyre putting out the information here to kay youre saying exactly but one of the things thats happening is why a people being beaten why Police Beating protesters why is there violence amongst this protest if its just a question of facts and educating the public why is there violence why people being killed because for me everyone in the nation has seen how buses public property have been torched by protesters we have no there india is no issue and cannot have any of you know when i look so nicely i know i shot you and i resent you and countless lining up because mostly i dont think they own you why well but i dont think i know pretty i am like i am a big magnet for anyone i just i dont need a quick look i was about. There you know i guess it is really crazy that youre not all on the same page about that which is great because thats why we invited you to be on the stream but very simply just to me very simply why are people being beaten why is the fight as if its just a question of facts and showing the facts for the Public Confidence goes faster but briefly its absolutely possible that individual instances the police may have committed some excess in action i mean theres no im not going to deny that im not may have to respond be awful may have you not certain about this i get mad oh yeah if we dont get the full story on me youre going to look just you know weve got an office all right young student john baby yeah i was reading in the library and i live still to. Come play me like a wonder when i got a good machinist lost his i was amputated come on you know what are you talking about its pretty good i didnt get it but at least you know when you look like i just met a protest that happened in the police was trying to maintain law and order some. Theres a little bit of theres. No denying it i know once i think yes im just going to ask you just a pause for a moment guess im going to ask you to pause for a moment this is overseeing a very very important topic for you because your voice is a of being raised here. Why is that violets explain to us why from your perspective as a perspective as a protester whose experience fight its why is there violence at you you might have seen that viral video everywhere going everywhere that video was taken or it happened one can only get a father every day from dr hamburg i so i think im going to you are going to ask you to talk me tell you this video because im going to show it for you this is the headline that we showed to our audience on out to see what dot com india is jimmy a women who took on delhi police in viral video so this goes back to early december in a sentence tell us where you were what you were doing and then im going to play the video so you just set it up in a sentence i should go ahead what happened absolutely not because this was going on be in be to be have been blocked or someone you either do not using by the game seems we dont want to make it or buy lend your best be bogus to our god forbid begin to read and thats nice nobody its all somewhat at all new york of the national i read the. Group the lead toward the protesters and about crime they. Had all over the area and its all going to be looking to the youth ok and one of my very clearly that had a big problem still receive but had the courtyard open house in order to you were emerging from my shotgun going to my other video now only a bag im going to play the video because the pictures of worth a 1000 words is the that saying such go so let me just show you a little im going. To here we have a protest this is an early december. Ok makes a good point you do not know the situation do you know how this starts for you to go see you to see the scene. There actors and the sticks and. Then look look at my show look i showed what shes doing shes when the red red skull off here and shes. That finger like that finger wagging went viral. And if the women had not been there who knows what of what happened to the gentleman on the floor ok lets move on this that there is a he said she said all they said they said theyre going to say here but that there are genuine fears aside that some think that this idea of the citizen Amendment Act that theres Something Else that is going to happen after this that it might escalate one of the fields that are driving people onto the street for the a making people like cut the case and you dont understand the facts what are the fears can you articulate them for me. Yes the government intends to do now still to dispose of those that. Own minister used and said in the parliament what it is and now to see because i not see it as it is the same site of one client and yet i dont see both of them ought to be done under citizenship act of 155. 00 the national right to stay out of citizens and then also have a National Popular vote just say they dont exist stay off yet because youre concerned that they may well exist for the honing india exactly right the government has clearly said that intent to do they have the guy would be speaking different voices to confuse the people who believe me winds those and beyond is done and for example if my neighbors extruded iced the produce documents i havent got sequestered dont put citizen and he wont get a good object to my inclusion and as an indian citizen this b. S. We have seen in the state of the us hot. In the state across all the 500000 Muslim States exploded 500000 bengali hindus need to make sure that god went in this discriminatory law course to give citizenship to the 500000 bengali hindus that it is said to this committee so how can i say you have probably right in case you would get lost cannot tell you what Prime Minister modi said about peoples feelings about this could escalate and you could end up with a National Registration like history of citizens this is what he sounds to that charge have a muscle man is kind of i dont like about forgotten about the art that after my government came into power since 2014 i would like to tell the people in india that nowhere has an r. C. Been discussed there has been no talk of it because of the Supreme Courts direction we had to go through that in a song what are you the opposition talking about lies are being spread i think im going to have got up and. I see youve been protesting for so you know its mind and youve put yourself in danger and im going to just leave that as as thats what Prime Minister modis pushbike case the people who are worried about the escalation from the cia i sure youve been out there youve faced. Being in a very risky situation why are you doi