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ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 1 July 13, 2024

As he reveals the secrets of the strike on al jazeera. I mean ok and you know in the stream today in india will mass protests stop the countrys controversial new citizenship law we will take a look at the debate surrounding the citizenship Amendment Act you can be part of the conversation as well where on twitter at 8 a stream and streaming live on. An actor writer and activist but most importantly a human voice and you are in the street. Protests across india are continuing their fight against a new citizenship law that excludes muslim immigrants and they stuck in fear of great to add to the muslim discrimination in the country the citizenship at pass parliament in december and wants no muslim immigrants from pakistan afghanistan and bangladesh a quick apostle toward citizenship because a lot benefits only people certain religions protesters say it goes against india secular constitution. We are protesting because this law divides the country on the basis of religion the tradition of our country has been unity in diversity india is not just a hindu nation india is made up of different communities. Over the weekend hundreds of thousands marched in hyderabad and in other cities across india one protest was met with clashes that injured up to 30 students at a Prominent University in new delhi so what kind of impact will Massive Public outcry have if any with us to talk about this in new delhi i show read out a protester and student it Indias National Islamic University in hyderabad as a way see a member of Indias Parliament and in Miami Florida to care tana a lawyer after school commentator its good to see you everybody i want to start with a little flavor of what its like to be online theres so much support in terms of social media going against various different perspectives all the citizen Amendment Act give you a little flavor here grandma protesting the hash tag c a a underscore n r c protests let me just give you a little bit of grandma in the streets here. Just to be clear this protest is against this is an Amendment Act i mean if you love a little sample here this hashtag see a protest 15 year old janay destroyed 9 vehicle stealing these protests is motherboard he has been served notice to recover damages and she has no money or property and im not sure about this bit about how she is going to raise the money but we move on we give you one more example and this is poetry for the people again against a citizen a member an act. The audience or absent of obviously rapid attention here enjoying the poetry how to care this is not on usual poetry in the streets people are protesting and they are doing so with great fervor when you see this against a citizen a member that has already happened its already illegal what is your reaction how do you explain this to the world this is not just isolated bits of social media that im showing people in india a genuinely concerned about this or not. Well i think i the issue with the protest is that im sorry to say it results from a misunderstanding of the law and im also sorry to say that not a lot of people who started the protest actually have read the law the law is being touted as anti muslim but let lets look at the law lets look at the situation as it were if these laws were if this law wasnt passed whats the right of a muslim non indian who has an immigrant in india if hes a legal immigrant he can say under the rules of his visa if hes an Illegal Immigrants and its divided into 2 sections one is. Someone who is fleeing persecution on any grounds like its the city religion etc that person under the government policy can continue to get whats called a long term visa which is a refugee policy of the government of india and thats illegal immigrant who is just an economic migrant who is coming to india for such a best a livelihood obviously is liable to be deported theres no refugee policy for him theres no policy that protects him what does the citizenship Amendment Act do does it render this muslim non indian so i know i want to go i want to be friend mr confidant again you have been stopping by saying that the people who was there dressing in the speech last night i made up the ass of north of it off the bill i was shot and not being able to grab his today and i have got the same knife i will tell you was that the one of the students here was that indeed i have seen and i have rang the people i have spoke to the people all over the in the i dont really want to have that and the lions den understand everything regarding this media here all of the stages being its not all so big and how to say the signings what in what seems an aside on the word that he said everyone including everyone else can only and they live for understand that being the odd little mark all read all that its not the whole big ideology its the be the Big Government and you need to see some of the information or will they obviously im going to. Whats the big when theyre going to be buying to india on the basis that really the president of the people all over the country but again youre a leader you might not be in circles so gas isnt your my bread i dont care is i and im not and i shall hold tight for one moment so im just going to catch everybody up is i mean the outside of india so they really do appreciate why this is such a fierce debate so as to k i was explaining this is an Immigration Law it impacts foreign refugees from neighboring countries it particularly impacts people of different names the face but nobody included in those faves where they form refugees can get accelerated immigration status none of them are muslim it doesnt name any muslims which is why im sure saying this is a summer phobic i should as you were speaking care come back in just a moment as you were speaking we were seeing huge protests from just this weekend in hyderabad why are people out on the streets in such numbers i show you go ahead. People had there and they were clearly and the audience what does the actors all about i have to say a bit see it it should not be and a lot is not it cannot be understanding alone it could be connected with and not be connected with n. P. R. Benami b. And c. But in great r. But that one of the intensity in the its not its not my poor big genocide thats going to happen in india the people that understand black people have got everything for them people have an ally for over that back thats why the people that coming in but not that they are coming in the street in the mosque number this is that they can Freedom Fighter back happening in india this is what our existence that this might be with her or the way that you know especially in the universe that if you have seen god how do believe the quality of attacking the b. Student in the unit i did how the police have been as bad the people in their people in you would be you but with the british people how to tell if they were bad bad if you sent me in the jane you know im a good listener and it was the day my big you know knew that theyre going the people who are into gear go to our Community Norm and a lot in a bar because the are getting the people who are educating people oh i can see it again the see it so here are again in the artwork theyre happening in the up at structed racist some weeks eve why should i shy again im going to ask you just to slow down just a little bit so everybody can hear what youre saying and understand what youre saying because you have been involved in this protest since the beginning of the south got to go ahead go ahead yes the only question i want to show is that this law citizenship amendment if the really the goal of the government was to make this a hindu state or a new nation as if shes alleging why would christians why would parsis which is arrested and you know originating from iran several years or several hundreds of years ago why would they be included in the law and the reason is that this law is about religious persecution that minorities suffer in 3 may bring countries and let me tell you very specifically all constitutions of the. These 3 countries specify islam to be the state religion now how can you potentially argue that morris lim said you know the our country iran iraq and refugee protection cannot be permitted to allow colossal. I are refugees and theyre fleeing religious persecution like hotcakes isolation back and saying its no islamophobia sat there going out join us join us a 2nd i had. No with mr carter good or did it deliberately misleading your viewers. The basic structure of the india because tuition and knowing about this movie go merrily dominic and widely to be suspect of the constitution. Please understand i dont know that down to the store citizenship id like to know the state of my style and industry that i saw. 1. 9000000 people live and let explode or it is that p. J. Finance minister abbas who says he only said that the 500000 are bengali tindalls mid be given citizenship india citizenship under citizen i dont act the 500000 muslims bengali muslims who have been excluded must stop but a lot of it isnt it shared then it says or discriminatory such as these are just after the fall of the 2nd side of the saddle that would lead them to say raise and lower if you like that list the sites i know not included in the sense in the map and that is that is the problem so the people who are protesting let me just telling him as an open no no no no no no no no no no no no no no please the problem of it the problem is you dead government has why you needed a constitution of india you cannot make laws under the basis of religion laws have to get it yes yes you can the constitution i think. I got let me put it because the servant got talked about that acting social wrongs in article 15. 16 differentiate between dollars what could a little thing be out and you cannot make base of the footage of the base of religion that i did like we say that you are changing the parameters on the day i was if youll just kind of treat this kind to make it not become pakistan this country would not become bangladesh this country would definitely not become about this time and as an indian design i dont care about whats happening in pakistan bangladesh or not but its not because understand that you cannot why did my constitution you cannot take away that you cannot make laws of the basis of religion because the end result would be this country would become a chaotic country so yes i think if i like it or not i would not want to bring in some other voices. That aside if i may i want to bring in some other voices into this conversation this could be a legal or policy conversation but it goes beyond this because people are being killed people being beaten and there is violence amongst the protestors i want you to have a listen to serapion rank and math and shes a senior lecturer at the university of cambridge from her perspective this is what the protests are about have a listen have a look at the opposite ends of as a refugee no but it is not the law in fact introduces a stratified notion of citizenship in which privileges of religion and in need of class determine political. The law in this sense runs contrary to the commitments to equality and nondiscrimination that are provided in the Indian Constitution it is contrary to preamble obelisks of a secular and socialist republic and it is also what noting in the past few days as protesters have tried to invoke these Constitutional Values they have been met with very high intensity high scale violence from the state which is particularly targeted at muslim areas and cities. So im also just looking here at what the p. J. P. Is is saying hand theyre talking about spread facts not myth you can have a look here on my laptop and they are talking about people just just not understanding the citizen. Amendments act and theyre putting out the information here cut to k. Youre saying exactly but want to sing says happening is why of people being beaten why Police Beating protestors why is there violence amongst this protest if its just a question of facts and educating the public why is that violence why people being killed because for me everyone in the nation has seen how buses public property have been torched by protesters we have no there india is no issue and cannot have any are you sure you know what i look so dont see i know i shot you and i resent you i dont have anything and countless lining up because mostly i think they owe me a line what about i dont think i know pretty i am like i am a big magnet for energy but i just i dont need a good look at themselves about. Me to not appear you know yes it is really crazy that youre not all on the same page about that which is great because thats why we invited you to be on the stream but very simply just very simply why are people being beaten why is there a fight as if its just a question of facts and showing the facts for the public. Briefly its absolutely possible that individual instances the police may have committed some excess in action i mean theres no im not going to deny that im not may have a full refund be offered may have you not such a balance i get oh yes we dont get the full story only for the little jealousy dont we dont often i know young student john maybe yeah i was reading in the library and i live stream just as gump let me like one of the really good i think it was even if the last says i was and peter did come on you know what are you talking about its pretty good i didnt get it but at least you know when you reflect matter protest it happened in the police was trying to maintain law and order some to. Under the old executive theres. No denying it i once again im just going to ask you just to put off for a moment guess im going to ask you to pause for a moment this is overseeing a very very important topic for you because your voice is a being raised here. Why is that violets explain to us why some your perspective as a perspective as a protester whose experience fight its why is there violence yet youre why have feedback viral video everywhere dont everybody that we dont have a gun or a problem why dont you know me better father every day from dr mehmet i said i think im going to i can ask you to talk me through this video because im going to show it for you this is the headline that we showed to our audience has gone out to see we dont call him indias jimmy a women who took on delhi police in viral video so this goes back to early december in a sentence tell us where you were what you were doing and then im going to play the video so you just set it up in a sentence i should go ahead what happened to the business were going all beat in between have been blocked or someone you either do not you think by the game seems to be dont want to make a buy lend or bet the biggest or god forbid begin to leak in a national id its also not at all not at the National Library of the. Group or lead toward the broadcasters and might very. Well use that you know all over the area and all going to be looking at them but you. Know why they believe that i had my big problem so we better head to the courtyard open house in order to get a margin of my shot im going to buy the video now only at bat i want to play the video because the pictures of worth a 1000 words as the saying goes to let me just show you a little im going. To here we have a protest this season. Im going to makes a good point you do not know the situation do you know how this starts for you to go see. And see the scene. And their actions and the stakes and. Then look look i show look i show what shes doing shes when the red red skull off here and shes. Thinking why does that finger wagging went viral. And if the women had not been there who knows what happened to the gentleman on the floor ok lets move on this that there is a he said she said all they said they said theyre going to say here but that there are genuine fears aside that some think that this idea of this is an Amendment Act that theres Something Else that is going to happen after this that it might escalate what are the fields that are driving people onto the street for the a making people like cut the case and you dont understand the facts what are the sins can you have to kill 8 them for me. Yes the government intends to do nascar just so so does the. Home minister used and said in the parliament what it is and how to see if youre going to see it as it is the same side of one inquiry and yet i dont see both of them ought to be done under citizenship act of 155. 00 the national they want to stay out of citizens and then also have a National Popular vote just say they dont exist a. F. C. s as you are concerned that they may well exist for the Holding India exactly right the government test clearly said that intent to do they had the guy would be speaking different voices theyre going to use of people who dont believe me why dont those and beyond is done and for example if my name is excluded id im off to produce documents i havent got sequestered dont put citizen and he want to get a good object to my inclusion and as an indian citizen this yes yes seen in the state of asala i did meet up here in the state of asada 500000 muslims theyve exploded 500000 bengali hindus named have expressed that god when this discriminatory law wants to give citizenship to those 500000. 00 bengali hindus that are said to discriminate so i could probably write in case he would get i asked can i pay you what Prime Minister modi said about peoples fears about this could escalate and you could end up with a National Registration like history of citizens this is what he sounds to that charge have a muscle man is kind of ironic about forgot to tell about the odds that after my government came into power since 2014 i would like to tell the people in india that nowhere has an r. C. Been discussed there has been no talk of it because of the Supreme Courts direction we had to go through that in a song what are you the opposition talking about lies are being spread i think im going to have got an opera. I say youve been protesting for so you know its mine and youve put yourself in danger and im going to just leave that as as thats what Prime Minister modis pushed by case the people who are worried about the escalation from the c. A. A. I sure youve been out there youve faced. Being in a very risky

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