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ALJAZ NEWSHOUR July 13, 2024

Led coalition have come under attack by iran and we await an official response from the Iraqi Government osama thank you very much youre watching all jazeera and continuing coverage of the developing story coming to us out of iraq iran says its launched more than a dozen Ballistic Missiles of u. S. Facilities in iraq at least 2 bases have been targeted one in erbil and the other one of the areas in the province of anbar irans revolutionary guard has assumed a warning to israel and other u. S. Allies in the region saying theyll be attacked if their countries are used to strikes against tehran. It is standing by for us at the white house as big as the latest reaction out of iran 1st lets go. To osama bin. In the iraqi capital just before we start our conversation of some of we have got these live pictures coming to us from kemah on the actual funeral for. So the money taking place following on from the 3 days of official mourning compelling pictures. Some of the people osama weve been talking to since this story broke 4 hours ago now have been saying that the optics are interesting that they went for the airbase that donald trump. Had been to in december of 2018 had they also timed it so its its operating in counterpoint do you think perhaps with the actual burial. Well the optics do matter and as you as you pointed out early on in this conversation that the iranians decided to hit almost the same time in the United States on friday theyre in general so yes optics do matter and now that you seeing those scenes again on your screen for the last 4 days youve seen and out for of grief and emotion both in iraq and iran youve seen places in syria and lebanon where there has been a lot of grief all the way up to yemen where people have come out and showed support for this general a general who was made into a larger than life figure against the operation on iceland he was the one who put together this ragtag ideological force together into a cohesive army which fought i. C. In iraq and syria and got them the victory remember that it was the iraqi forces in 2014 who left mosul for ice and it was the it was again when they went back in 2017 they were spearheaded by many of these militias of the Popular Mobilization forces who 2nd general 2nd person in command was im at the end 100 was also killed in this strike so this is a figure these are figures who are very very varied in not just in iraq in the region as well and that is why many people right after the death of customs in the money question. The rationale behind this because maybe and perhaps the ministration in the United States did not gauge how deep its deep rooted the support for the ideological and the military support for this general was in the region again as as these events have developed youve seen groups saying that they want revenge but chewing a tremendous amount of restraint as well there has been and as we saw the funeral there were. Reports that are from various vested diplomats that theyre concerned that this crowd could turn towards the green zone in baghdad but it didnt there was there was concern that after the funeral after the bodies have been transferred to karbala now there will be retaliatory attacks because remember on sunday hezbollah the hezbollah brigades group had said to iraq the force of that distance yourself by a 1000 meters from the u. S. Installations that did not happen either so it goes to show that many of these groups although operate independently are semi independently on the ground are taking a not of their guidance from iran and iran had said that it will respond at a time and place of its choosing it said that it will respond in kind because a military action deserves a minute for your response and that is what we seen unfold in iraq again and this is what the iraqis that are very much afraid of because where does this stop is one that when we were talking to him at the parliament he said that if one american d was killed in the killed an iranian general if iran responds and melt multiple americans are killed how is america going to respond and then it is will it start a Chain Reaction of response and counter response and where does it end and why does it have to be in iraq and that is something that everyone in iraq has seemed to be asking that what did iraq do to deserve this because there are people who are against not just the United States influence here in iraq but also against iranian influence in iraq and both of these forces seem to have chosen the theater of war to be this country. Given your reporting osama when you talk to iraqis not iraqi politicians not Iraqi Military not even u. S. Military who work with Iraqi Military is there a sense in which those people in iraq might be best served served if the u. S. Does what iran seems to be signaling it wants the u. S. To do just over the past 2 hours and if this do not react to what we have done in the past 2 hours and then we would have to react to your reaction and the people that would benefit from that in the 1st instance would be the people of iraq. Yes pieces of the people of iraq still remember been a few days ago when the u. S. President work up and said that it is going to be devastating for iraqis if the try to push u. S. Troops out he warned them of sanctions he warned them of having to pay for installations that hes built that hurt iraqis a lot of people in the street said that why doesnt the United States respect us why doesnt the United States think of us as equal partners why is are we being dictated upon by the United States and iran and this is an issue which divides iraq is whether you go to words the northern parts and the kurdish region or you go to the sunni dominated areas in the northeast and northwest and provinces of iraq and then you come towards the shia dominated areas there is a completely different perception of what foreign influence is and that is why this issue divided Iraqs Parliament as well and it it is it is seen on the streets when you go to a cafe and sit down with somebody over a cup of tea they they ask you the question that why why are we being dragged into this and what are we going to get out of this theres nothing that iraq has seen since the u. S. Led invasion in 2003 about from death and destruction there are people who are 19 years old and who say that they have seen no prosperity and no prospects and that is why a lot of iraqis in the last few months have come out in their thousands on the streets saying that they want an end to this they want to see a government which represents them they want to see a government which is not governed by the influences of either regional partners or u. S. Pressures and that is what the sentiment on the ground is theres been a lot of anger against everyone whos been influential in iraq their people are not happy with the way the United States has been treated in iraq people are not been happy with the inference that iran has on many of these groups which are ideologically aligned to iran more than iraq and there are theres a strong sense of nationalism that runs deep in this country so again. Issue of foreign influence foreign troops presence of Foreign Forces in iraq is a divisive one and that is something that runs deep and will only manifest itself more and more as iraq gets thrown into this war between 2 major parties osama thanks very much for just joining us here in el jazeera just to get you right up to date with the very latest developments and the reaction around the world the Civil Aviation authority the federal Aviation Authority in the states has said that u. S. Civil flights have been banned over the gulf region over iraq and over iran thats according to the f. A. A. Being quoted in the Reuters News Agency thats going to be problematic for the big gulf carriers because theres already an issue over flying over saudi air space because of the g. C. C. Blockade of cattle are so that was a convoluted flight if you fly into and out of this region on a regular basis you would have been aware of that if youve looked at Something Like flight radar dot com or flight flight tracker 24 what youre looking at right now is the burial of kassam silliman e he was killed last friday in that targeted drone strike carried out by the United States he was killed at the same time as an Iraqi Militia leader there was a natural overlap between those 2 men and what they were trying to achieve of course the news agenda for the past 4 or 5 days has been dominated by the International Reaction to that and the incredibly powerful pictures coming out of iran tens of thousands of people on the streets of iranian cities during the 3 days of mourning for qassam so the money somebody was saying when he was killed he wasnt on a mission he was the mission and he was directly responsible for maintaining and pushing the arc of iranian influence across the middle east from iran itself all the. Down to the Arabian Peninsula down through and as far south as yemen there were reports that came out very very quickly and its an established part of the journal of record of this region that there was an overlap between him his militia influences and some of the fighters in the yemeni conflict has been going on since 2015 as is our correspondent in tehran so these pictures as well being beamed around the world and the timing of this again possibly significant. Yes the burial of us and so the money was for spawned yesterday because the number of crowds that descended upon his home city of card mine hundreds of thousands there was a stampede there were casualties so authorities didnt want to know the incident so they perspire on his burial and we understand that is taking place right now no iran did say that they would respond but theyve allowed for these days of mourning hes been currently buried and it is significant that as he is being buried even before you know he is put into his crave iran has responded but who was general got some sort of money he was the head of the good force of the which is a part of the irans revolutionary guard could force deals with operations outside of iran who is credited with fighting off isis in iraq and preventing them from reaching the borders of iran he is also built up links and plans and militias in the region from iraq and yemen and lebanon with hezbollah so he was a very instrumental pair but also even those that dont like the government here that dont like the political establishment have their recognized customs of the money as a paycheck to some month that defended the country and thats why we sourced so many people come out onto the streets over the last few days hes body was sport to have he saw trim and large number of crowds come out of the city then the holy city of musharraf and then the funeral took place here in the crown where hundreds and thousands of people came out onto the streets the funeral was led by the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and then his body was taken to own the holy city of qom and then to his final resting place in can mine and that was hes vish to be buried in his home city in the cemetery alongside those that had died fighting in the iran iraq war so has a very instrumental individual his very. Popular individual in iran but also amongst irans allies in the region now what we have heard tonight is that iran has carried out a retaliatory act for his assassination this seems to be true waves of missile attacks and dysthymic revolutionary guard they have issued a statement they said that to us time to fulfilled their promise they said that tens of missiles had been fired they called the United States the great satan and they warned that if the United States allies in the region. It was used to retaliate against iran then iran would target dolls regional countries and they also said that they did not recognize israel as a separate entity from the United States and if if iran is attacked and that opens up the door for a dragging in israel and other regional countries if this is to escalate but how did we get here how did we get to a position where we could possibly be facing a wider conflict now iran has made it clear that this is a retaliation to a single event to the assassination of general costs and so the money they said they do not want a war but if the United States respond they would have to respond but weve got had this goes all the way back to 2015 the nuclear deal that obama signed with iran things looked like they were Getting Better but when donald trump came into office he pulled the United States out of that deal in 2018 and that deal was designed to curb Irans Nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief but when donald trump came into office it pulled the United States out of that deal and put sanctions on iran on the oil and Banking Sector they connally has been affected and from last year iran has been taking steps back from that nuclear deal in phases and just at the start of 2020 days they said that their 5th phase would be to. The Nuclear Program will not be ended by j c p o is that 2015 nuclear deal but everything was upset everything went out the window when the general sense of the money was assassinated by the United States now the population have people come out into the streets they have been asking for revenge the politicians have said that they will have revenge and even the Supreme Leader said that to the how many said that there would be revenge and tonight it seems that that revenge has taken place just 2 ways of strikes against us u. S. Targets but now the ball is in the United States courts how do they respond because iran is saying that if they are attacked it will be forced to retaliate again now the United States has overwhelming firepower but iran does have the ability with its proxies with its allies in the region with the militias just change the face of the middle east to make it very difficult and. I think we lost the line there too big in tehran as weve been hearing the u. S. Federal Aviation Authority is prohibiting u. S. Civil aviation operators from using airspace over iraq iran the gulf and the gulf of amman lets go to our White House Correspondent kimberly hellcat also on top of that aspect kimberly osias well weve heard what may yet prove to be irans 1st official reaction. The Telecommunications Minister tweeting i guess in effect to the white house saying get the hell out of our region and i suppose in one sense thats the kind of strength of language thats predictable but maybe its the kind of language that donald trump has got to rise above and maybe not react to it as a kneejerk reaction hes got to play some 3 d. Chess here because its the middle east is a complex mosaic at the best of times. Yeah and its we have to try and determine from that tweet what they mean by get out of here if that means the president s overall which has been a subject of discussion for a number of days now with regard to u. S. Troop presence in the region or does this mean with respect to what you were saying just a moment ago with respect to airspace and whether or not there is a significant military presence in the air that is something we are still trying to nail down in the midst of all of this you know we have to kind of try and figure out what the u. S. Response would be because we do know that there are a number of officials in the white house right now we do have to report though an update to that that we did see the Vice President mike pence his motorcade leaving the white house were not quite sure how to read that because thats the only official that we can confirm has left the white house presumably the situation room. There may still be others in there we know earlier we did see the secretary of state mike pump aoe going in the defense secretary mark esper as well as the chair of the joint chiefs of staff so the question becomes what happens next and that is something that has not yet been determined often we dont know about what the response is until many hours after the fact one thing i can tell you from covering sort of events like this throughout my reporting career is that particularly when the United States has suffered some sort of military attack in any form or fashion the Battle Damage assessment as its called is rarely publicized because the concern being peter that the other side gets a socalled p. R. Victory if you will so we may not get those answers in terms of of numbers of potential casualties even the assessment of the damage in terms of scale and scope but there is. Is one question that in the midst of all of this we have to start asking and that is you know the u. S. Said it was preparing for some sort of response from iran that it was preparing for some sort of attack if thats the case then why was there not some sort of Immediate Response why was there not sort of the air defenses that we know typically around one of the the largest air bases that we know has been hit why did that not work you know you can speculate a number of reasons why were trying to get out sers and so far those answers are not coming from the white house so this gives us a sense that things may still be in motion but again its not entirely clear does this mean that when the administration was going to go to congress a little later today a

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