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We have been trying on a number of occasions to have a cease fire agreement signed the National Government of accord signed a cease fire agreement yes it wasnt signed by the other party lead by huff if we fail to have a cease fire in place and if we fail to have an agreement signed we will never see how fatahs hostilities coming to an end we go with what we think both the parties were coming to moscow as they both had heeded our calls and they had both responded to our demands of a ceasefire now we are in berlin we hope for more success in this particular crisis. Where we have 2 correspondents covering this story. Libya but 1st we go to the shiloh who is covering the u. N. Conference on libya in Berlin Germany tell us 1st about who is participating in this conference and what the expectations are. Well funny as much about who is participating as well as truth is im participating as you mentioned 2 of the key figures that are president of the russian president as well as his counterparts we have the chinese ship sions the m. R. O. As well as some of the african countries as well and european powers obviously brought germany being the host nation but we have the Prime Minister of the United KingdomBoris Johnson and the italians as well each of those countries either have direct links with the conflict in libya because theyre either geographically meeting the border of countries like egypt or so forth but there are others who have economic and other Strategic Interests as well who isnt present for example are the chinese ians or the moroccans who. Expressed rather their surprise not being involved chinese obviously being a border country with maybe an obviously maracle d so being strategically and your graphics because of the south of the northern parts of africa how where we can map this out for us for me is that whilst were talking about the Armed Conflict on the ground there is also that geopolitical conflicts the geopolitical struggle that continues to unfold in libya as you mentioned there there is russia on one side and turkey on the other but you also have the United Arab Emirates and all those who were opposed to the arab spring all those who are opposed to these kind of democrats opposition of the arab world on one side who have been heavily backing the have said and see in him a person who can represent their foreign policies ensuring that there is some sort of Ultra Classic regime in that area and then you have other countries like algeria. Tunisia people maybe would side a bit more on the other europeans however find themselves maybe losing influence in a very strategic country because of its border with them with this training and what that implicates in terms of people in the. Movements of people and thats why theyre struggling to try and get a hold or maybe more influence in the struggle ari so we know whos there and whos not there what are the expectations then because last week in moscow the expectation was that they would sign a more permanent ceasefire and end the un baps government of surat what are they hoping to achieve today in berlin and will the fact that some of some countries like qatar or morocco tunisia been excluded from this conference will it undermine the chances of a breakthrough. Well realistically nobodys expecting that this conference will conclude then suddenly the fighting will stop the concept is a little complicated as weve just tried to disseminate in this rip. Time but what is more likely a realistic outcome is that there will be an announcement for further discussions maybe a more detailed roadmap of the political discourse were hearing rumors of possibly further discussions taking place in geneva under the auspices of the United Nations but driven by these Major Players that are in just most likely a more realistic scenario but there is a draft communique that has been going around weve seen the 3rd version of the draft and were not sure how many more versions will be drafted before and if it was gathered behind me will be able to agree something but there are so many things to discuss obviously there is the arms and putting an end to its bearing in mind that the United Nations puts an embargo on countries sending arms to either side for a very long time but that was thrown to the by the immoralities egyptians and people also question the russians and french for something going to run a good general stuff so theres the army section theres also the economic and the oil libya being a huge producer of oil there is parts of the communique saying that the International Community would recognize the sole entity that would be able to sell libyan oil would be the tripoli based company obviously that would give a lot of ways to the recognized government there so theres a lot being discussed whether theyll be able to agree on this were not quite sure most realistically will be the announcements of further discussions on the road jim thank you very much for the moment we will of course be checking in with you its a lot to day here jim i mentioned a draft of the final communique is expected to be released. About conference in berlin and its already called on all parties to refrain from hostilities against Oil Facilities the latest attack by forces loyal to warlord honey for have to have forced the closure of 5 of libyas eastern. Oil exporting ports they are riga way tina ras lanuf and sidra libyas National Oil Company says that will result in a loss of 800000 barrels a day in output lets bring in Mahmoud Abdel wahab now in tripoli for us so mahmoud how is the book age of the Oil Terminals likely to impact those talks in berlin could it do derail things. Apparently it could do in any peace talks not only the berlin ongoing talks now because a member of the Prime Minister said that the fact that hastert has given green light to his forces to block the Oil Terminals which are the major Oil Installations in the country and that means for the test it is not ready for peace and now as the peace talks are going on in berlin military commanders here in the ground say that. This step taken by have to the forces to block the Oil Terminals in the east of the country is one of several violations of the cease fire accord proposed by to a key and. 10 days ago now on the ground here their military experts say that the oil industry not only represent the major part of the national oil income but also. Presenting a threat to the area because in case a conflict erupts there that could cause both humanitarian and environmental disasters oil experts here in tripoli tell us that there blockage of the Oil Terminals in their east of the country will not only affect their countrys economy but it will also cause a d. N. A. Link to their production process because of the 50 or youll fields have been disrupted by this blockage and the they also say the experts say that in order to set the production process back to normal that could take a huge effort including sophisticated maintenance so this intuition remains very uncertain and the gap between the 2 all evil. Suctions seems to be very wide in order for the International Mediation to bridge this that it needs very big effort to be achieved ok mahmoud thank you for that Mahmoud Abdel lies our correspondent in tripoli well lets discuss the situation in libya further now with claudia xeni whos Senior Analyst for libya at the International Crisis group round he joins us from rome thank you so much for being with us so less discussed this meeting in berlin a highly anticipated meeting and the hope is that this conference will lead to a more permanent ceasefire in libya and to the implementation of the arms embargo do you think this is achievable in the current context. Well i think what is more realistic to expect coming out of berlin. Statements of support and undersigned declaration supported by these 12 countries for International Organizations holding full of the libyan parties to take steps for a more permanent cease fire their support for respect in the arms embargo that has been flaunted and theyre cold to support a u. N. Led political process so were not actually expecting the libyan parties to sign them all permanent cease fire agreement in berlin mind you if that comes its very welcome and much needed but the dynamics and the choreography. Of the personalities in berlin does not bode well for that so were lim is going to be an International Show of support but you know you say were not expecting them to sign a permanent cease fire but we did see in moscow last week the un backed government. Signing a cease fire agreement while honey for have to i said he needed more time what is it going to take for have to side to sign the cease fire agreement what needs to happen is they enough pressure on him you think from the International Community. Well at the heart of the problem of course is how the 2 sides perceive themselves hoft are still perceived himself as on the winning side he sees his forces on the outskirts of tripoli as still being very powerful so he wants to go to the bargaining table or to the negotiation table in a position of power said raj signed because there was nothing controversial in the cease fire agreement that was put on the table in moscow it essentially said so russia agreed to nominate 5 representatives for a joint military committee to discuss the details of the cease fire support you and lead future pro says political process d and a commitment to discuss the boundaries of the cease fire from half there is point of view what is controversial is the appointment of 1 5 of his representatives to sit in a joint military committee with representatives from the g n a we all know that their considers the military forces to the jna nothing more than militias so this is the main obstacle and secondly what the political process that the u. N. Is backing and that is being discussed in berlin and which will be supported by the International Community looks like if one goes to the negotiating table perceiving oneself as powerful certainly you would want concessions that favor your vision of what the printed tacl process should look like how much leverage does the International Community have claudia and in fact how much will and commitment is day from some of these farmers who bought the various sides in the conflict from the u. A. E. From from turkey how much commitment is there we need to see an end to this conflict in libya. Well in many respects the countries that are deeply involved in the libya crisis. Want to see the end of the conflict and they want to see the country gradually moving towards a more stable and unified political setup the question however is whether theyre going to stop arming the military allies in libya or not in this in the sense that theyve invested so much u. A. E. On one side saudi arabia as well in egypt to to sustain. That they might they might be paying lip service to this agreement that is on the table but if they see within a few weeks or the next month that this is not leading towards actually a unification of political process they might continue to support the allies and likewise for turkey turkey is committed to supporting ceasefire in the political process but its heavily involved in supporting the g. And a and if if if they see that there is some political process that might lead to the toppling of the g n a or a more unilateral political push and have their side they might also continue to support militarily their proxies in in libya their allies in libya and we interesting to see if any progress is made in berlin thank you so much ground here for speaking to us from the International Crisis group joining us from rome thank you for your time thank you lets turn our attention to other world news 9 protests have turned violent on the streets of hong kong again after prodemocracy demonstrators tried to march in defiance of a ban riot police fired tear gas at protesters and arrested several people thousands had gathered in the center of the city for the demonstration authorities had approved the rally as long as participants stayed in one location but police warned they would stop anyone attempting to monch sauerkraut was at the rally in hong kong she says a Police Response is part of a. Security crackdown ahead of the Chinese New Year. It began as a peaceful rally with thousands gathered in china garden in Central Hong Kong on the island and the organizers of this particular rally they wanted to march but the police denied that approval but the purchases were to hit anyone other lift try to god and then march along some the busy surface of the big highways behind us all the why to cause why by but the protesters were stopped i will go a police line behind me where hundreds of right place blocked that exits and they pushed them back others also fought a number of rounds of tear gas and sponge grenades on those purchases trying to disperse the crowd another place always said that they would move in if that particular group of the demonstrators started to move and they did now weve had a number of arrests also in central and its all part of a Police Crackdown as we enter the Chinese New Year festival of the place and the government have banned a number of events of the coming weeks and a number of fish have also of ramped up the security around hong kong as part of a Police Crackdown on the antigovernment demonstrations which are now in the i. Coming up on the news hour. Protests also turn violent in lebanon on to anger is rising as the economic and political crisis deepens well have a live report plus we join me philippines coast guards trying to create people from around the volcano assam ignore warnings of imminent danger and score the poor hope their success will raise more enemies as they take on old rivals Manchester United in the english premier league. First the bodies of 11 ukrainians killed on board a passenger plane which iran said it has mistakenly shot down have been repatriated they have received a military guard of honor in kiev in a ceremony attended by president roh to me is that in ski authorities in iran say theyre analyzing the fright. Recorders from the Ukrainian Airlines an airliner and have no current plans to send the black boxes overseas iran is under pressure to compensate the families of the 176. 00 victims that speak to our correspondent in tehran dossier barry dorsey the 1st whats the latest in the investigation and iranian authorities had said they were sending the black box recorders of the plane to ukraine whats changed well we know that over the past 24 hours there is some confusion about whether or not the authorities here would send the 2 black boxes that they retrieved from the crash site near the airport but according to the head of the Investigations Team of the Civil Aviation authority in iran the iranians have no plans to send either of the black boxes to be analyzed either in ukraine or any other western country for that matter for the forseeable future thats what we know so far we do know that the 150 bodies out of the 176 victims have been identified and have been given back to the loved ones the 11 that we know have been sent back to ukraine is just part of the ones that they are given back the bodies to the country that theyre supposed to go back to the authorities here say that they dont plan on giving this black boxes to any other country for the time being because theyre still analyzing theyre trying to retrieve the data that is on those boxes trying to piece together what happened in the last moments of the flight before it was shot down by iranian officials this is something that has been ongoing they also have had a from the ukraine germany and france and canada who have come to iran to help in the investigation so we are waiting to find out more about the 1st initial reports that come from this investigation but for the time being we know that the black boxes will remain in iran and whats been happening on the diplomatic front door so. Well there was a lot of criticism in this surely not only by the International Community but also by iranians inside the country because officials here denied any involvement in this plane being shot down they said that it was impossible and for days they denied it happening and the